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<blockquote data-quote="Navar" data-source="post: 393374" data-attributes="member: 2313"><p>I disagree with the killing blow being absurd. The killing blow is taken straight from the Green Ronin assassin base class, and is really not that overpowered considering the coup-de-grace weaon in the Psionics handbook, and the fact that the wizard will more than likely be doing save or die spells like crazy after about 7th level. I think that since it is only useable a limited number of times per day, and the fact that 20 is the highest point total anything can cost that 15 is a good point cost for it.</p><p></p><p>Hide is plain sight is just a new use for an existing skill. It is not "hide while in combat" as I have already had to allay people saying things like "you are just going to attack, hide in plain sight, and attack again." That is not it at all. It is just the shadowdancer ability. </p><p></p><p>Neither are really absurd, as a spellcasting assassin get things like improved invisiblity.</p><p></p><p>It is very short sighted to say that loosing 4 skill points per level is a minor thing, but the class does not compaire well to a rogue. Compare it to a Ranger. You lose a HD and spells to gain sneak attack, uncanny dodge, and death blow. </p><p></p><p>The purpose of the class is to make something that is customizable. If you need to be a halfling sneaky assassin, but if you want to make a dwarf that uses an axe and splits open his marks skulls then you can do that too.</p><p></p><p>The argument you make about him being "better" than the assassin in the DMG is also odd because inho every PrC that WotC has made since the DMG has been better than the ones in it. Also this Assassin works well with the assassin in the DMG. They are not mutually exclusive so they can both be members of the same guild.</p><p></p><p>I was thinking of giving him a less generours sneak attack progression, but the abilities are where he really shines, and I was hopeing to get some feedback on weather on not those were overbalanced. The one I am most concerned about is ranged sneak attack. </p><p></p><p>Any more thoughts are happily welcomed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Navar, post: 393374, member: 2313"] I disagree with the killing blow being absurd. The killing blow is taken straight from the Green Ronin assassin base class, and is really not that overpowered considering the coup-de-grace weaon in the Psionics handbook, and the fact that the wizard will more than likely be doing save or die spells like crazy after about 7th level. I think that since it is only useable a limited number of times per day, and the fact that 20 is the highest point total anything can cost that 15 is a good point cost for it. Hide is plain sight is just a new use for an existing skill. It is not "hide while in combat" as I have already had to allay people saying things like "you are just going to attack, hide in plain sight, and attack again." That is not it at all. It is just the shadowdancer ability. Neither are really absurd, as a spellcasting assassin get things like improved invisiblity. It is very short sighted to say that loosing 4 skill points per level is a minor thing, but the class does not compaire well to a rogue. Compare it to a Ranger. You lose a HD and spells to gain sneak attack, uncanny dodge, and death blow. The purpose of the class is to make something that is customizable. If you need to be a halfling sneaky assassin, but if you want to make a dwarf that uses an axe and splits open his marks skulls then you can do that too. The argument you make about him being "better" than the assassin in the DMG is also odd because inho every PrC that WotC has made since the DMG has been better than the ones in it. Also this Assassin works well with the assassin in the DMG. They are not mutually exclusive so they can both be members of the same guild. I was thinking of giving him a less generours sneak attack progression, but the abilities are where he really shines, and I was hopeing to get some feedback on weather on not those were overbalanced. The one I am most concerned about is ranged sneak attack. Any more thoughts are happily welcomed. [/QUOTE]
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