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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8094877" data-attributes="member: 6987520">True, and I thought I had made a statement to that effect but maybe it was in another thread... shrugBut neither of them have metamagic, which when used properly and when needed can be incredibly effective IME. Channel Divinity is okay and Wild Shape can be great (for Moon Druids), but otherwise... meh At this point you're also comparing arcane vs divine casters-- I am more concerned about arcane vs arcane.I didn't until this rule was put into effect.Fortunately, I also have the full power to restore the balance by not adopting the rule. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The pressure is part of the game. For the sake of the gods I am sick and tired of WotC making a version of D&amp;D that coddles to players. 5E is already a very easy game as designed. Oh, you picked a spell you thought was great and it turned out you were wrong??? The HORROR!!!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :eek:"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> Well, it is one spell, look through the list and when you level choose a better one... But you might be wrong again.A sorcerer's versatility is NOT supposed to be in the spells they know, neither is this supposed to be a power of Bards or Warlocks IMO. A sorcerer's versatility is in their metamagic--which now you also have metamagic versatility, which at least I can understand and is appropriate to what they are supposed to do well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8094877, member: 6987520"] True, and I thought I had made a statement to that effect but maybe it was in another thread... [I]shrug[/I] But neither of them have metamagic, which when used properly and when [I]needed [/I]can be incredibly effective IME. Channel Divinity is okay and Wild Shape can be great (for Moon Druids), but otherwise... [I]meh[/I] At this point you're also comparing arcane vs divine casters-- I am more concerned about arcane vs arcane. I [I]didn't[/I] until this rule was put into effect. Fortunately, I also have the full power to restore the balance by [I]not[/I] adopting the rule. ;) The pressure is part of the game. For the sake of the gods I am sick and tired of WotC making a version of D&D that coddles to players. 5E is already a very easy game as designed. Oh, you picked a spell you [I]thought[/I] was great and it turned out you were [I]wrong[/I]??? The HORROR!!! :eek: Well, it is one spell, look through the list and when you level choose a better one... But you might be wrong again. A sorcerer's versatility is [I]NOT[/I] supposed to be in the spells they know, neither is this supposed to be a power of Bards or Warlocks IMO. A sorcerer's versatility is in their metamagic--which now you also have metamagic versatility, which at least I can understand and is appropriate to what they are supposed to do well. [/QUOTE]

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