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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8095286" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Not what I am saying at all but I applaud your impersonation.  <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="👏" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44f.png" title="Clapping hands    :clap:" data-shortname=":clap:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> Nope. Once you get to 5th level, it really isn't.So, was this a surprise combat? You had no idea you were heading against the creature? Oh well, tough.Hmm... CON 14 or so (typical of level 6 fighter, but you might have even has a better CON) and proficiency bonus +3 means you had a 35% chance of failing this save. For that to happen twice is about a 1 in 8 chance. But hey, let's not worry about the randomness of the game.You were dying. Big whoop... Even without help you have a 60% of making all your death saves and stabilizing on your own. Dying =/= Dead.Oh, come on! You're a bard! What was the suggestion-- "Don't dispel this magic I'm casting on you, and don't let anyone else do it?" I mean, you're talking a 2nd level spell so Dispel Magic automatically cancels it.And 4 trolls against a party of 3 10th level PCs is hardly a difficult fight IME... but without knowing the particulars... who can say?AWESOME! I am glad your PC died. I never said it doesn't happen, but the game is geared for the PCs to win.Oh, and was the monk using Patient Defense? Did she realize perhaps Disengaging would be better?Again, you can give all the bad roll situations you want, but I've seen that often when PCs do die, it was because the players acted foolishly (just to be clear, I am not assuming you acted foolishly because I don't know the whole scenario, etc.). Oh, and even then, a simple Revivify and you are alive again--let's not forget that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Or, at this level you probably have access (directly or not) to a raise dead and/or reincarnate.YEAH, the PCs win-- again. Big surprise, huh?Was this the same 4 trolls from the earlier battle? Again, so much depends on how you play and how prepared your group is, etc. The battles don't sound that difficult to me, more like improper preparation and tactics (and sure, some bad rolls, apparently all in one battle).In our last session the party almost faced two TPKs, but it was because the players were NOT making good choices. I didn't want to kill them, but like you said, the dice fall as they may. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> In the first, the Paladin died and was turned into a Shadow (so nothing short of True Resurrection or Wish for him) and in the second the party only survived after the Barbarian/Fighter used inspiration and indomitable twice to keep raging.The sad thing is: neither battle should have gotten to the point it did. It was flat-out bad choices by the players. One player looked aghast when it seemed like it was over in the second fight. I wasn't going to remind him of indomitable--after all that is his responsibility as the player-- but after a moment of frantic searching he did.Anyway... DM fiat can make the game tough or deadly, but again --by design-- it isn't. FWIW, 4 10th level PCs against 4 trolls IS a deadly encounter according to the design of the game... guess in your case (due to some bad luck) it finally worked out as designed, huh? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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