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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8096449" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I have no idea how you got that from this thread. That isn't even what we're talking about. We are talking about the ability to swap spells quicker, with a wider array of swiss army knife type spells to do that with. Spells which most other classes don't get (except the sorcerer, who never took them before because they were situational), and which are niche spells most easily accessible by swapping. Which IS in fact a big part of the Wizard shtick.</p><p></p><p>Now, the sorcerer can do that better than the wizard, for a lot of those spells. Need a Disguise Self spell for a plan the PCs come up with? Sorcerer can do that in 8 hours. Wizard better have it already in their spellbook or else they are out of luck.</p><p></p><p>Plan calls for dropping a Darkness spell on the guards before you run by? Sorcerer can prep that easier now.</p><p></p><p>Plan for a scout PC to carry stacked enhancements to their sneak check to spy out the dragon lair which includes an Enhance Ability? Sorcerer can do that better now.</p><p></p><p>Have a door you need to open and the rogue cannot pick the lock? Sorcerer can prepare Knock in 8 hours easier than the Wizard, who again will need it in their spellbook.</p><p></p><p>And on and on with the utility spells the Sorcerer was likely never getting access to which they can now access in 8 hours. Spider Climb, Suggestion, Clairvoyance, Dispel Magic, Fly, Gaseous Form, Tongues, etc.. All these great situational spells which before they likely never used, they now easily can temporarily gain. They're now the swiss army knife caster for any special occasion, only better at it because they get all 133 of those spells automatically to the Wizards 44 - taking the Wizard's shtick.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I honestly am not sure you're following the thread. We're literally talking about entirely different things.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If what you wrote above is your recitation of your understanding...I think you don't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 8096449, member: 2525"] I have no idea how you got that from this thread. That isn't even what we're talking about. We are talking about the ability to swap spells quicker, with a wider array of swiss army knife type spells to do that with. Spells which most other classes don't get (except the sorcerer, who never took them before because they were situational), and which are niche spells most easily accessible by swapping. Which IS in fact a big part of the Wizard shtick. Now, the sorcerer can do that better than the wizard, for a lot of those spells. Need a Disguise Self spell for a plan the PCs come up with? Sorcerer can do that in 8 hours. Wizard better have it already in their spellbook or else they are out of luck. Plan calls for dropping a Darkness spell on the guards before you run by? Sorcerer can prep that easier now. Plan for a scout PC to carry stacked enhancements to their sneak check to spy out the dragon lair which includes an Enhance Ability? Sorcerer can do that better now. Have a door you need to open and the rogue cannot pick the lock? Sorcerer can prepare Knock in 8 hours easier than the Wizard, who again will need it in their spellbook. And on and on with the utility spells the Sorcerer was likely never getting access to which they can now access in 8 hours. Spider Climb, Suggestion, Clairvoyance, Dispel Magic, Fly, Gaseous Form, Tongues, etc.. All these great situational spells which before they likely never used, they now easily can temporarily gain. They're now the swiss army knife caster for any special occasion, only better at it because they get all 133 of those spells automatically to the Wizards 44 - taking the Wizard's shtick. I honestly am not sure you're following the thread. We're literally talking about entirely different things. If what you wrote above is your recitation of your understanding...I think you don't. [/QUOTE]
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