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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8098121" data-attributes="member: 6855114">Nope. Not the whole point of my post. You take the info gathering of a whole group down with only two. The wizard was great at this, but not vital as I have shown. But to be able to do it almost by himself, he has to sacrifice quite a few spells. Where the others don't sacrifice anything.The scrying can be done by anyone. If pushes come to shove, yes wish (if high level enough) can be used but it is not necessary. The point is not info gathering in itself, but the sacrifices needed by the wizard to do it where the sorcerer, warlock and bard don't.No cost, no sacrifices just pure versatility. Do you understand?A wizard has to sacrifice many other spells to be able to do this job "almost" alone. He loses a lot in versatility as there is no guarantee that he will find other spells to compensate. Even then, the wizard needed: either an other wizard, bard, sorcerer, arcane trickster to provide invisibility  or a cleric to provide scrying if he would be the one providing the invisibility spell. The wizard could never do it entirely alone. This was a team effort. Now the team does not need the wizard to be able to do it. It is simple and easy to understand.</blockquote>