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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8098259" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Seven? I counted four. </p><p></p><p>And, maybe I repeated things because you said nothing to disprove or refute any of those things. </p><p></p><p>For example, the Sorcerer is still not the one making the Wizard obsolete, in exact opposition to many of your own posts early on.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What evidence other than me disagreeing with you makes you think I don't play at high-level? I've run multiple campaigns with characters at levels 15 and up. Yet, you want to set yourself up as somehow being more correct than me, because you have experience I don't . </p><p></p><p>And yes, I am trying to point out that your tests aren't working well for this rule. You have a scenario where this rule is clearly at its most powerful, perfect information by the players, and long experience with that particular party. </p><p></p><p>To misquote a famous person, "You can't judge a fish on how well it climbs a tree" you need a test that works for the rule. Your tests work well for 90% of all rules, but this one it is giving you skewed results I think, because it is providing exactly the rare scenario that this rule shines at its brightest.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Congratulations.... and how many times have you been proven wrong? </p><p></p><p>Just because you were right once doesn't mean you are right now, and I have no idea why you want to even bring this up, except as a way of saying that you are some sort of "early warning system" that has always correctly interpretted the impact of the rules on every gaming table.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And I still say you are wrong. I've read and seen quite a bit about wizards. But, you will just tell me I'm wrong, so why not cut to the chase. Saves me effort and time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8098259, member: 6801228"] Seven? I counted four. And, maybe I repeated things because you said nothing to disprove or refute any of those things. For example, the Sorcerer is still not the one making the Wizard obsolete, in exact opposition to many of your own posts early on. What evidence other than me disagreeing with you makes you think I don't play at high-level? I've run multiple campaigns with characters at levels 15 and up. Yet, you want to set yourself up as somehow being more correct than me, because you have experience I don't . And yes, I am trying to point out that your tests aren't working well for this rule. You have a scenario where this rule is clearly at its most powerful, perfect information by the players, and long experience with that particular party. To misquote a famous person, "You can't judge a fish on how well it climbs a tree" you need a test that works for the rule. Your tests work well for 90% of all rules, but this one it is giving you skewed results I think, because it is providing exactly the rare scenario that this rule shines at its brightest. Congratulations.... and how many times have you been proven wrong? Just because you were right once doesn't mean you are right now, and I have no idea why you want to even bring this up, except as a way of saying that you are some sort of "early warning system" that has always correctly interpretted the impact of the rules on every gaming table. And I still say you are wrong. I've read and seen quite a bit about wizards. But, you will just tell me I'm wrong, so why not cut to the chase. Saves me effort and time. [/QUOTE]
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