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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Al" data-source="post: 236001" data-attributes="member: 2486">Now here's an interesting question for you...what bard would NOT take this prestige class (other than those who want the Virtuoso abilities).  Let me see...prequisites: Balance and Bluff; not a problem.  Feats are pretty steep, but you get three back, so assuming you were going to take any one of Dodge, Expertise, Weapon Finesse or Craft Magic Arms and Armour anyway, then no expenditure on this front.  And the rewards...Cha bonus to AC: Thanks very much.  Probably a comfortable +4 to AC on qualifying, rising to +8 or more at top level.BAB: Better than normal.Spells: No improvement, but nevermind.Sword Casting: HandyEvasion/Improved Evasion: Very handy.Uncanny Dodge: Very handy as well.Gravija: Sounds interesting.So...the only thing you sacrifice is bardic music (woo...) bardic lore (not the end of the world) and er...skills (?- you haven't done them yet).  In exchange for better bab, a hefty AC bonus, sword casting, evasion rising to improved and uncanny dodge.  Hardly a fair exchange.For that matter, what sorceror wouldn't take it?  Sure, he has to blow a few skills cross-class, and waste a feat (he gets three back for the four sacrificed- and gets their benefit to boot) in exchange for a raft of decent abilities.I'm afraid it's back to the drawing board.</blockquote>