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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8525726" data-attributes="member: 87792">Psion: Last time I was a part of this conversation and asked people what they wanted at least 95% of it was covered by the aberrant mind sorcerer. The only coherent objections to that seemed to be a lack of the class name and that there were tentacles involved sometimes. The big thing is that one of the largest historical draws for the Psion is that it was a non-Vancian power point caster, and that's no longer as needed.Gish: The Gish isn't just one thing. There are already at least half a dozen gish subclasses doing Gish things in different ways (Eldritch Knight, Valor/Swords bard, Bladesinger, Hexblade, Battlesmith, arguably Arcane Trickster, Armourer, Rune Knight, and Paladin). What the remaining people are asking for is too overlapping with these subclasses conceptually and seems to be centered round a couple of abilities that could come from polishing the EK or even as warlock invocations.Warlord: The anti-4e lobby will rage? Seriously I do see a possibility of doing it through expanding the fighter - starting off by a couple of Warlord fighting styles that make the warlord better at supporting rather than increasing their combat potential. The warlordy subclass (PDK/Banneret) is terrible and needs a rewrite. And actual warlordy battlemaster maneuvers including ones that give the ability to spend hit dice in combat are wanted.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8525726, member: 87792"] Psion: Last time I was a part of this conversation and asked people what they wanted at least 95% of it was covered by the aberrant mind sorcerer. The only coherent objections to that seemed to be a lack of the class name and that there were tentacles involved sometimes. The big thing is that one of the largest historical draws for the Psion is that it was a non-Vancian power point caster, and that's no longer as needed. Gish: The Gish isn't just [I]one[/I] thing. There are already at least half a dozen gish subclasses doing Gish things in different ways (Eldritch Knight, Valor/Swords bard, Bladesinger, Hexblade, Battlesmith, arguably Arcane Trickster, Armourer, Rune Knight, and Paladin). What the remaining people are asking for is too overlapping with these subclasses conceptually and seems to be centered round a couple of abilities that could come from polishing the EK or even as warlock invocations. Warlord: The anti-4e lobby will rage? Seriously I do see a [I]possibility [/I]of doing it through expanding the fighter - starting off by a couple of Warlord fighting styles that make the warlord better at supporting rather than increasing their combat potential. The warlordy subclass (PDK/Banneret) is terrible and needs a rewrite. And actual warlordy battlemaster maneuvers including ones that give the ability to spend hit dice in combat are wanted. [/QUOTE]

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