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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8529278" data-attributes="member: 6704184">I'd either&nbsp; go more broad or more specific. Either it's Pact of The White Well, which gives a specific sword and is a very small order of less than a dozen individuals in the whole multiverse who serve this specific archfey, or it's a broad approach to making war or something. &quot;The archfey&quot; is, I think, a good fit for exactly one class. Trying to spread it to two, without changing the focus of it somehow, would be a bad approach. I'd go with a general knightly orders vibe. Maybe part of that is that I don't like how much the Paladin has taken over the knighthood space in dnd, but I also think it's just a good hook. So you are a knight of the lady of the white well, or a knight of winter, or a knight of hell. And there are even some gods that would likely have arcane knightly orders dedicated to them, such as Bahamut and Mystra. And then you've got the Swordmage on the other side of the gish design space, in light or no armor, members of esoteric orders (ie secrets societies and mystery cults with swords), sort of the nerd foil to the Dweomer Knight's himbo energy. Just needs a one word name. Maybe Arcknight, as someone suggested in my &quot;name a gish&quot; thread.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8529278, member: 6704184"] I'd either go more broad or more specific. Either it's Pact of The White Well, which gives a specific sword and is a very small order of less than a dozen individuals in the whole multiverse who serve this specific archfey, or it's a broad approach to making war or something. "The archfey" is, I think, a good fit for exactly one class. Trying to spread it to two, without changing the focus of it somehow, would be a bad approach. I'd go with a general knightly orders vibe. Maybe part of that is that I don't like how much the Paladin has taken over the knighthood space in dnd, but I also think it's just a good hook. So you are a knight of the lady of the white well, or a knight of winter, or a knight of hell. And there are even some gods that would likely have arcane knightly orders dedicated to them, such as Bahamut and Mystra. And then you've got the Swordmage on the other side of the gish design space, in light or no armor, members of esoteric orders (ie secrets societies and mystery cults with swords), sort of the nerd foil to the Dweomer Knight's himbo energy. Just needs a one word name. Maybe Arcknight, as someone suggested in my "name a gish" thread. [/QUOTE]

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