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<blockquote data-quote="kennew142" data-source="post: 3946527" data-attributes="member: 18490"><p>It's great that you can tell what our characters are like without ever having been at one of our games. How perceptive of you.</p><p></p><p>It's pure ignorance to assume that everyone who plays the game differently from you plays with characters who are <em>always dull and one-dimensional</em>. I'm pretty sure no one would make a claim like that without, at the very least, having some facts to back up their opinions. All of the groups I play with have been using the point buy system since the advent of D&D 3.0. Guess what? I've never seen a single character with an unadjusted ability score higher than 16, nor have I seen any characters with a CHA score of 8 (except for half-orcs and dwarves).</p><p></p><p>I will freely admit that my examples are purely anecdotal. How about yours? Do you even have that?</p><p></p><p>BTW, RPGA and online games are completely different from home games. Comparing RPGA characters and online game characters to characters in a home game is counter-productive, since only the latter can focus on character driven stories and in-depth storytelling.</p><p></p><p>The anecdotal evidence I have for characters with 'random' ability scores is exactly the opposite of that for point-buy characters. I've been gaming since 1979. Do you have any idea how many 'randomly generated' fighters I've seen with 18/00 STR or wizards with 18 INT? Let's just say that the laws of probability obviously do not apply in some gaming circles.</p><p></p><p>It is my opinion that players who build dull and one-dimensional characters will do so, regardless of what system they use to create their characters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kennew142, post: 3946527, member: 18490"] It's great that you can tell what our characters are like without ever having been at one of our games. How perceptive of you. It's pure ignorance to assume that everyone who plays the game differently from you plays with characters who are [I]always dull and one-dimensional[/I]. I'm pretty sure no one would make a claim like that without, at the very least, having some facts to back up their opinions. All of the groups I play with have been using the point buy system since the advent of D&D 3.0. Guess what? I've never seen a single character with an unadjusted ability score higher than 16, nor have I seen any characters with a CHA score of 8 (except for half-orcs and dwarves). I will freely admit that my examples are purely anecdotal. How about yours? Do you even have that? BTW, RPGA and online games are completely different from home games. Comparing RPGA characters and online game characters to characters in a home game is counter-productive, since only the latter can focus on character driven stories and in-depth storytelling. The anecdotal evidence I have for characters with 'random' ability scores is exactly the opposite of that for point-buy characters. I've been gaming since 1979. Do you have any idea how many 'randomly generated' fighters I've seen with 18/00 STR or wizards with 18 INT? Let's just say that the laws of probability obviously do not apply in some gaming circles. It is my opinion that players who build dull and one-dimensional characters will do so, regardless of what system they use to create their characters. [/QUOTE]
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