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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 3948009" data-attributes="member: 18549">This opinion is compatible with "I can just keep rolling stats into 4th edition."  It does not, however, explain why you think that point-buy as the default is such a disaster.  If you don't like it, you don't have to do it.  If someone else likes it, they can do it, as you've explained.  It's not your style of game, but that doesn't say a darn thing about 4th edition that it doesn't say about 3rd edition, or even 1st edition when you take Unearthed Arcana into account.  So I think you're contradicting yourself.Either there's a reason that point buy is less optional in 4th edition than in 3rd edition, and we haven't seen any evidence for this, or it's no more of a problem than in 3rd edition, which means it's one of many presented options for chargen.</blockquote>