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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 4053089" data-attributes="member: 18">It's laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame to make something &quot;Magick&quot; when something non-magic would do the job. Iron rations are fine, you can imagine them as a dozen different things (at least), and they're clearly something nobody wants to be eat, clearly inferior to normal food. Waybread is lame-o &quot;everything made by elves is better&quot; junk, it's not fun, it's not cool, it doesn't &quot;enhance the D&amp;D experience&quot; (imho!), and it's existence would have an effect on society (which will no doubt be ignored). It's just another yawnsome prop to allow people to handwave the characters need to eat, but it's a lot more boring and MAGICKALELELEY than &quot;iron rations&quot;. Imho, of course.Oh well, just another example of the 4E philosophy of &quot;If it ain't fantasy, make it fantasy!&quot; I suppose. A more bitter man than me might be surprised humans made it into the PHB at all.Hippogriffs are freakin' cheap at 1000g, if old prices hold. That might be more money than it used to be, though.I don't remember that, tbh &gt;.&gt; I'm sure it was there, though. Hey, in the real world, lighters predate matches, and at least ED tended to account for these things in describing their societies, and included things REAL PEOPLE would want, not just &quot;adventurers&quot; (like that bowl which heated itself up).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 4053089, member: 18"] It's laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame to make something "Magick" when something non-magic would do the job. Iron rations are fine, you can imagine them as a dozen different things (at least), and they're clearly something nobody [I]wants[/I] to be eat, clearly inferior to normal food. Waybread is lame-o "everything made by elves is better" junk, it's not fun, it's not cool, it doesn't "enhance the D&D experience" (imho!), and it's existence would have an effect on society (which will no doubt be ignored). It's just another yawnsome prop to allow people to handwave the characters need to eat, but it's a lot more boring and MAGICKALELELEY than "iron rations". Imho, of course. Oh well, just another example of the 4E philosophy of "If it ain't fantasy, make it fantasy!" I suppose. A more bitter man than me might be surprised humans made it into the PHB at all. Hippogriffs are freakin' cheap at 1000g, if old prices hold. That might be more money than it used to be, though. I don't remember that, tbh >.> I'm sure it was there, though. Hey, in the real world, lighters predate matches, and at least ED tended to account for these things in describing their societies, and included things REAL PEOPLE would want, not just "adventurers" (like that bowl which heated itself up). [/QUOTE]

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