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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8205871" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>It's extremely well-established as a general point, and the fact that the odd king temporarily made a law making certain behaviours illegal is the not the same thing as everyone who was later regarded as "a witch" (which included essentially anyone practicing any kind of folk-religion or folk-healthcare or the like) as being regarded as "automatically evil", which was the specific point. Generally casting evil spells on people is regarded as evil, but that's not the same thing as "being a witch".</p><p></p><p>I notice there's a total lack of sources for your claims, too - you've put in links, but not to the actual sources. Normally when someone is making very specific claims like these (which are extremely specific) and not giving the source, presumably a book in your case, it's because that source itself is controversial or dubious. Maybe you have a great source but I'm curious why you don't mention it. One of your lines is really out-of-place and looks like a quote, too - "Even then this was obviously no new penalty, but the statutory confirmation of a long-established punishment." - that makes zero sense being in the middle of what you've written, so what are you lifting that paragraph from?</p><p></p><p>If we want more nuance, we could say that fairly reliably in Britain at least, up until the later middle ages, people make some kind of distinction between "evil magic" and "good or neutral magic". This tends to be true in antiquity as well, where we have sources. What changes later on is that all magic becomes regarded as evil. That's what I'm calling an aberration. It's rarely the case in human history that that approach is taken.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8205871, member: 18"] It's extremely well-established as a general point, and the fact that the odd king temporarily made a law making certain behaviours illegal is the not the same thing as everyone who was later regarded as "a witch" (which included essentially anyone practicing any kind of folk-religion or folk-healthcare or the like) as being regarded as "automatically evil", which was the specific point. Generally casting evil spells on people is regarded as evil, but that's not the same thing as "being a witch". I notice there's a total lack of sources for your claims, too - you've put in links, but not to the actual sources. Normally when someone is making very specific claims like these (which are extremely specific) and not giving the source, presumably a book in your case, it's because that source itself is controversial or dubious. Maybe you have a great source but I'm curious why you don't mention it. One of your lines is really out-of-place and looks like a quote, too - "Even then this was obviously no new penalty, but the statutory confirmation of a long-established punishment." - that makes zero sense being in the middle of what you've written, so what are you lifting that paragraph from? If we want more nuance, we could say that fairly reliably in Britain at least, up until the later middle ages, people make some kind of distinction between "evil magic" and "good or neutral magic". This tends to be true in antiquity as well, where we have sources. What changes later on is that all magic becomes regarded as evil. That's what I'm calling an aberration. It's rarely the case in human history that that approach is taken. [/QUOTE]
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