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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9722231" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>There's a somewhat old-fashioned view that successful companies shouldn't use Kickstarter because either they're taking money from smaller creators who need to use it by doing so, or because it's just being cheap when you don't have to be cheap.</p><p></p><p>I think when Kickstarter was very different, like, fifteen years ago, there was some limited justification for the first viewpoint, especially as you often saw KSes doing similar concepts and one was from a big company and one or more from a smaller one. But now it seems clear big companies using KS/Backerkit/etc. will often get people to see smaller products and back those - indeed, some Backerkit (and possibly KS?) emails I get the people actively promote smaller, unrelated KSes and the like in those emails, which is decent. And the second one is sometimes obviously true, because if a big company KSes an obviously-going-to-succeed big product that's a little... off. It's not like, satanic but it's like, tacky.</p><p></p><p>But the reality is, as [USER=4871]@TiQuinn[/USER] says, these are often niche products with unknown demand (and this one definitely is - who knows how many class-specific card packs will sell? I wouldn't buy one and I like DH a lot!), and that's perfect for Kickstarter or similar. We already know Darrington wildly underestimated the demand for Daggerheart itself - why make potentially make an estimation mistake again when KS is right to here to help?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean, I think it's better to admit there <em>are </em>reasons and address them rather than pretending it's mere irrationality or contrarianism. There's more to it than that. I think it's wrong in this case (and often is) but let's not just sweep all critiques of people using KS or similar under the carpet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9722231, member: 18"] There's a somewhat old-fashioned view that successful companies shouldn't use Kickstarter because either they're taking money from smaller creators who need to use it by doing so, or because it's just being cheap when you don't have to be cheap. I think when Kickstarter was very different, like, fifteen years ago, there was some limited justification for the first viewpoint, especially as you often saw KSes doing similar concepts and one was from a big company and one or more from a smaller one. But now it seems clear big companies using KS/Backerkit/etc. will often get people to see smaller products and back those - indeed, some Backerkit (and possibly KS?) emails I get the people actively promote smaller, unrelated KSes and the like in those emails, which is decent. And the second one is sometimes obviously true, because if a big company KSes an obviously-going-to-succeed big product that's a little... off. It's not like, satanic but it's like, tacky. But the reality is, as [USER=4871]@TiQuinn[/USER] says, these are often niche products with unknown demand (and this one definitely is - who knows how many class-specific card packs will sell? I wouldn't buy one and I like DH a lot!), and that's perfect for Kickstarter or similar. We already know Darrington wildly underestimated the demand for Daggerheart itself - why make potentially make an estimation mistake again when KS is right to here to help? I mean, I think it's better to admit there [I]are [/I]reasons and address them rather than pretending it's mere irrationality or contrarianism. There's more to it than that. I think it's wrong in this case (and often is) but let's not just sweep all critiques of people using KS or similar under the carpet. [/QUOTE]
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