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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thunderfoot" data-source="post: 3370703" data-attributes="member: 34175">I guess that the "problem" is just perception.  An earlier poster said there is no reason to take levels after 5th in any base class, why, because you don't get phenomenal cosmic power?  That's powergaming in my book.  I personally hated the entire idea of prestige classes (and still do to some point) to begin with.  I had the same problem with 'kits' in 2e and 2e, 2.0s Options just made me think of accounting.  I understand that some people want that cookie every level, but it isn't required.I like to play, I like to challenge my players and they like being challenged, for us there is only one person in the group (of 11) that has a PrC and that after a lot of debate over was it necessary?  I like 3e, I really do, but often times I am struck by what it killed and left by the roadside, most notably the sense that it was a game to played, not won.  The rapid leveling, the suggested treasure tables, the combat only XP tables, they all were created to help move away from certain less desirable attributes of gaming.  (Four years at 9th level, Monty Haul and I only need 1 more XP so I go find a peasant and kill them.)  But what about the opposite side of the coin where you can level to fifth in only a few days time in game, low power magic and treasure campaigns designed to keep the economy of the game world in check and more RP based campaigns?  Yeah there are suggestions to offset these things in the rules, but they really don't work.  I can see the influence of video game RPGs on my beloved D&D and frankly it stinks.   All that being said, if this is what it takes to make the game fun for others, then I'm for it.  No it won't be at my table, but that doesn't mean it’s derived by Satan in the very bowels of Hell either.  There is a definite rift developing between older players and younger players; I see it in local games, cons and even here on the boards.  I can usually tell a persons age on these boards just from their general comments, just as you can.  This is what's sad; that the children of the first generation of gamers are being separated by a generation gap created by the very thing that we used to say would bring us closer together with our kids than we were with our own families.  They didn't understand our hobby, know our kids are saying the same thing, and yet, we created the hobby.  I'm not saying the old way is right or better, just that it stinks that there is a new way that keeps us from being united.Sorry, I'll come off my soapbox now.</blockquote>

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