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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 3719595" data-attributes="member: 78"><p>Yeah, freerunning is sweet. But what is it mechanically? A bunch of Balance, Jump, Climb, Tumble checks? Maybe some Escape Artist stuff for diving through narrow spaces? A mid level character could hit the DCs for most stuff people run into in a city with some effort. Where do you go from there? A high level character doesn't need to bounce around between walls to get down from a high place - they can just jump straight down, pick themselves up off the ground, then fight off a dozen trained and armed soldiers! Pretty much regardless of class - a 20th level wizard blows away 1st level guards in combat ability even when using non proficient weapons. </p><p></p><p>A 1st level barbarian with Run is gifted athlete - add in an alignment shift and 3 monk levels for another speed boost and they'll shred all our running speed records. So that's a whole 4th level character to have better than Olympic ability. Give our athlete max ranks in Jump, and he's at like +19 Jump before other feats and stat mods. So he's winning our jump records too.</p><p></p><p>It just seems fairly obvious to me that max level characters in DnD is far more powerful personally than people in RL can get regardless of whether or not they're magic users . So obviously their 'mundane' high end abilities are going to be somewhat unnatural seeming to us.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Victim, post: 3719595, member: 78"] Yeah, freerunning is sweet. But what is it mechanically? A bunch of Balance, Jump, Climb, Tumble checks? Maybe some Escape Artist stuff for diving through narrow spaces? A mid level character could hit the DCs for most stuff people run into in a city with some effort. Where do you go from there? A high level character doesn't need to bounce around between walls to get down from a high place - they can just jump straight down, pick themselves up off the ground, then fight off a dozen trained and armed soldiers! Pretty much regardless of class - a 20th level wizard blows away 1st level guards in combat ability even when using non proficient weapons. A 1st level barbarian with Run is gifted athlete - add in an alignment shift and 3 monk levels for another speed boost and they'll shred all our running speed records. So that's a whole 4th level character to have better than Olympic ability. Give our athlete max ranks in Jump, and he's at like +19 Jump before other feats and stat mods. So he's winning our jump records too. It just seems fairly obvious to me that max level characters in DnD is far more powerful personally than people in RL can get regardless of whether or not they're magic users . So obviously their 'mundane' high end abilities are going to be somewhat unnatural seeming to us. [/QUOTE]
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