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<blockquote data-quote="Loincloth of Armour" data-source="post: 3779731" data-attributes="member: 28201">From article:Likewise, while wizard traditions are associated with a particular implement, a wizard need not possess or hold a given implement to use a power belonging to that tradition.Could be similar (to use 3.5 terms) to when a fighter attempts to fight with or without a weapon.With:Fighter: &quot;I attack the ogre!&nbsp; My BAB is +3, my strength +3, and weapon focus gives me a total of +7 on the roll.&quot;Wizard: &quot;I cast Prod in an Uncomfortable Location on the ogre.&nbsp; My [insert 4ed game mechanics here] gives me +5 on the roll.&quot;Versus Without:Fighter: &quot;I attack the ogre!&nbsp; My BAB is +3, my strength +3.&nbsp; Since I'm using my fist instead of my sword, I don't get my weapon focus... oh, and another -4 for not being proficient with unarmed strikes.&nbsp; +2 on the die.&quot;Wizard: &quot;I cast Prod in an Uncomfortable Location on the ogre.&nbsp; My [insert 4ed game mechanics here] gives me +5 on the roll, but since I don't have my wand it works out to only +1.&quot;It highly suggests there are other effects possible when you use your items, but you can cast the spells without them.&nbsp; Just harder.So while you might be able to charm a low-level gate warden without naught but a word and the waggling of your fingers, (just like a skilled fighter could beat the warden up with his fists), if you want to affect the strong and the powerful, you have to make sure you have the right tools for the right job.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Loincloth of Armour, post: 3779731, member: 28201"] From article: [i]Likewise, while wizard traditions are associated with a particular implement, a wizard need not possess or hold a given implement to use a power belonging to that tradition.[/i] Could be similar (to use 3.5 terms) to when a fighter attempts to fight with or without a weapon. [b]With:[/b] Fighter: "I attack the ogre! My BAB is +3, my strength +3, and weapon focus gives me a total of +7 on the roll." Wizard: "I cast [i]Prod in an Uncomfortable Location[/i] on the ogre. My [insert 4ed game mechanics here] gives me +5 on the roll." [b]Versus Without:[/b] Fighter: "I attack the ogre! My BAB is +3, my strength +3. Since I'm using my fist instead of my sword, I don't get my weapon focus... oh, and another -4 for not being proficient with unarmed strikes. +2 on the die." Wizard: "I cast [i]Prod in an Uncomfortable Location[/i] on the ogre. My [insert 4ed game mechanics here] gives me +5 on the roll, but since I don't have my wand it works out to only +1." It highly suggests there are other effects possible when you use your items, but you can cast the spells without them. Just harder. So while you might be able to [i]charm[/i] a low-level gate warden without naught but a word and the waggling of your fingers, (just like a skilled fighter could beat the warden up with his fists), if you want to affect the strong and the powerful, you have to make sure you have the right tools for the right job. [/QUOTE]

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