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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 3780836" data-attributes="member: 114"><p>The point is moot since Tomes have been removed from the list, but if you consider the full list originally ascribed to tomes</p><p></p><p>"A tome is tied to <strong>powers that reduce or neutralize an enemy’s capability in combat in some fashion, whether by slowing the foe, dazing, or through some other fashion</strong>. Tomes are also often important for spells of teleportation, summoning, shapechanging, and a few physical enhancement effects."</p><p></p><p>Frankly, powers that reduce or neutralise and enemy's capability has got to be usable in combat or else... it's not going to be very useful, eh?</p><p></p><p>I also think that you are confusing summoning (lasts less than two minutes at best, and can't teleport - almost like creating a shadow of a real creature) with planar binding (takes a long, long time to do and gets a creature with full capabilities, but at some risk to yourself and the creature is really there, and dies if it is killed).</p><p></p><p>I can understand a personal preference for less summoning going on - as well as the thematic reasons you give, each summoned critter is an additional figure to account for during combat, and can be time consuming.</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 3780836, member: 114"] The point is moot since Tomes have been removed from the list, but if you consider the full list originally ascribed to tomes "A tome is tied to [B]powers that reduce or neutralize an enemy’s capability in combat in some fashion, whether by slowing the foe, dazing, or through some other fashion[/B]. Tomes are also often important for spells of teleportation, summoning, shapechanging, and a few physical enhancement effects." Frankly, powers that reduce or neutralise and enemy's capability has got to be usable in combat or else... it's not going to be very useful, eh? I also think that you are confusing summoning (lasts less than two minutes at best, and can't teleport - almost like creating a shadow of a real creature) with planar binding (takes a long, long time to do and gets a creature with full capabilities, but at some risk to yourself and the creature is really there, and dies if it is killed). I can understand a personal preference for less summoning going on - as well as the thematic reasons you give, each summoned critter is an additional figure to account for during combat, and can be time consuming. Cheers [/QUOTE]
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