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<blockquote data-quote="Steve_MND" data-source="post: 6847722" data-attributes="member: 6801314"><p>This sort of stuff has nothing to do with intent or not -- just by virtue of being a min-maxer, it can sap the fun out of the game for a lot of other players by essentially causing their 'average' character to be effectively useless in comparison. When you're running around doing your 1d8+4 longsword shot each round, and then somebody comes along with a monster that casually is doing many multiples of your damage in each shot, it can be disheartening -- even if the other player isn't trying to be a dick about it. When the rest of the party ends up being relegated to the 'cohorts' of the one guys that barrels through the mod, the game suffers. Has nothing to do with intent, or being a dick, or even really AL in specific -- that is a result of mixing minmaxers with 'average' characters all the time, in any game. In home campaigns, those types of players extremes tend to gravitate towards each other in campaigns that are more suited to their preferred playstyles. You seldom have that homogenous option in an OP campaign, however.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except he's not hogging the spotlight. His min-maxed stats and character are, just by virtue of existing. The player could be interacting with nothing, saying absolutely nothing, and doing absolutely nothing but silently rolling his dice when it comes to his turn, and it can still be disheartening when you start to realize that you and your character are really mostly superfluous to the entire mod's outcome thanks to this guy. And its not even his intent to make you feel that way; you just can't compete with a minmaxed character if you yourself aren't similarly minmaxed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steve_MND, post: 6847722, member: 6801314"] This sort of stuff has nothing to do with intent or not -- just by virtue of being a min-maxer, it can sap the fun out of the game for a lot of other players by essentially causing their 'average' character to be effectively useless in comparison. When you're running around doing your 1d8+4 longsword shot each round, and then somebody comes along with a monster that casually is doing many multiples of your damage in each shot, it can be disheartening -- even if the other player isn't trying to be a dick about it. When the rest of the party ends up being relegated to the 'cohorts' of the one guys that barrels through the mod, the game suffers. Has nothing to do with intent, or being a dick, or even really AL in specific -- that is a result of mixing minmaxers with 'average' characters all the time, in any game. In home campaigns, those types of players extremes tend to gravitate towards each other in campaigns that are more suited to their preferred playstyles. You seldom have that homogenous option in an OP campaign, however. Except he's not hogging the spotlight. His min-maxed stats and character are, just by virtue of existing. The player could be interacting with nothing, saying absolutely nothing, and doing absolutely nothing but silently rolling his dice when it comes to his turn, and it can still be disheartening when you start to realize that you and your character are really mostly superfluous to the entire mod's outcome thanks to this guy. And its not even his intent to make you feel that way; you just can't compete with a minmaxed character if you yourself aren't similarly minmaxed. [/QUOTE]
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