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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Dungeon Nazi" data-source="post: 200224" data-attributes="member: 4520">We've been talking about powergamers and munchkins and twinkies and everything, and I wanted to vent about another one of my new players (it helps to clear my head <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />).He's been a good friend of mine for years, but has never gamed before, and his only experience with D&D is lots of Dragonlance novels.  He swears by them and won't read anything FR despite anything I say, because DL is better and that's that (he's only joining up with my FR game because he's that desperate for a decent D&D experience).  Because I know him so well, I'm afraid he takes some of my rulings personally, and gets upset with the "Because I'm the DN" concept.As I've mentioned before, it's in Shadowdale, 1372 DR.  He says, "I want to play a minotaur!"  "No, but if it's a tank you want, roll up a half-orc or human barbarian from one of the Uthgardt tribes."  "Why can't I play a minotaur?"  "Because I'm the DN." (Usually I work in some sort of rational explanation before that, but it never seems to make a difference.)Anyway, the guy himself is an atheist, and as such he insists that his character is one of "The Faithless".  I explained the whole deal about how the gods have walked the Realms within the past decade or so, and most people there generally acknowledge the existence of the gods and show an affinity for one."I'll write up an original story about it.  My whole family was killed and the gods didn't help, or something, so I don't worship any of them."  I told him that that wasn't very original, and that I can't stand it when a player thinks that the only way to create a unique character is to do something like declare, "Well, I'm the first good drow to come to the surface!" or, in this case, "I'm unique because everybody else worships a god and I don't!"  I did explain that his character doesn't have to worship his patron diety unless he's a divine spellcaster, but it wasn't enough.  He wants faithless, understands that he can strike a deal and choose a god upon death, and now the only problem is that he's convinced I'll single him out for instant death out of spite.It just bugs me that he doesn't bother to look into the Realms at all, instead trying to force his Dragonlance-based preconceptions into the game.So anyway, he's constantly challenging me to bring all of these issues to this board -- "Why don't you ask and see what the people on the messageboard have to say, huh?!"  So now that I've vented a little, you are now welcome to let fly opinions, suggestions, saber-rattling and rabble-rousing.ADDED:  A number of the suggestions popping up are to the effect of: "explain the rules to him and then just let him be faithless if he still wants it."  I did explain everything to him, and I never had any plans to force him into any direction -- he's agnostic, but still considered faithless for the purposes of resurrection.  The only thing that bothered me was the metagame reasoning behind his decision, but the fact that it bothers me is my problem.  He just has one of those narrow-minded I-know-better-than-you attitudes that can grate on you after awhile.  Luckily for him, I rain death upon all my PCs equally.My main problem is his total lack of interest in the Realms -- I need to figure out a way to hook him into it, and I haven't been able to find something he's interested enough in to get him to check *something* out.  Past Christmas and birthday gifts have included those nice, big, thick paperback editions of the Dark Elf and Icewind Dale trilogies, but he refuses to touch 'em because Dragonlance is better.  How would you guys go about hooking a player like this into the Realms?</blockquote>

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