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<blockquote data-quote="Zappo" data-source="post: 200348" data-attributes="member: 633">I'm sorry, I should have added that it's AD&amp;D 2nd edition stuff. Until the new Planescape 3e comes out, that is. Anyway, they are a bunch of fellows who think the powers are frauds, they have lots of power but don't deserve worship, and if there is a &quot;real&quot; God, then it's unknowable and unknown. Some of them worship the Great Unknown and even get spells, so they might have a point.Not even them try to deny the existance of the powers. That's just plainly delusionary. It would be somewhat justified only for a low-level character coming from a very backwater town, but after seeing what the party cleric can do, and after learning about the Times of Trouble, one would have to be crazy to still say that gods don't exist.The fact that he hasn't even read the FR novels before stating that DL is better (btw, I think he's right - but I did read some FR novels and played through all the Bioware games), and the fact that he immediately asked, and insisted, to play a minotaur, make me suspect that your issues with this player aren't over.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zappo, post: 200348, member: 633"] I'm sorry, I should have added that it's AD&D 2nd edition stuff. Until the new Planescape 3e comes out, that is. Anyway, they are a bunch of fellows who think the powers are frauds, they have lots of power but don't deserve worship, and if there is a "real" God, then it's unknowable and unknown. Some of them worship the Great Unknown and even get spells, so they might have a point. Not even them try to deny the existance of the powers. That's just plainly delusionary. It would be somewhat justified only for a low-level character coming from a very backwater town, but after seeing what the party cleric can do, and after learning about the Times of Trouble, one would have to be crazy to still say that gods don't exist. The fact that he hasn't even read the FR novels before stating that DL is better (btw, I think he's right - but I [i]did[/i] read some FR novels and played through all the Bioware games), and the fact that he immediately asked, and insisted, to play a minotaur, make me suspect that your issues with this player aren't over. [/QUOTE]

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