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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Just Another User" data-source="post: 3970266" data-attributes="member: 23516">Yes, but the point of elementals (IMHO) was that they are not-human, a fire elemental is fire "incarnate" a earth elemental is living earth, etc.they can have 10 int but thier intelligence is not human at all, and I don't even think they have a society,not one comparable to ours at least (and why should have? They are immortal, don't need to eat, or to reproduce, or any other material need, for what we know they don't even have the need, or the ability to learn new things. Why they would need a society for? The point behind elemental is that they are not human, they are alien, this fire archons? they are a little too human-like for my taste, they are essentially orcs, fire orcs, that blow up when they die. it is just another race the PCs can fight. oh-hum. :\ And about "punching you after being summnoned" how that behaviour  is different from that of any other summoned creature?</blockquote>