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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 9475126" data-attributes="member: 11760"><p>I got yelled at previously by WotC ride-or-die types for saying this, but this edition of D&D is making some specific choices about what kind of game it most naturally supports and who it thinks its target audience is. (Note that some marketing types may try to walk this back and argue that <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/tales-of-the-valiant-game-masters-guide-impressions.707049/#post-9473082" target="_blank">you can play everything under the sun</a> with this edition, because that's the job of marketers.)</p><p></p><p>And that's OK!</p><p></p><p>I know you know this, [USER=6984869]@Jahydin[/USER], but there are so many D&D offshoots and clones now, of nearly every flavor (pure 3E dungeonpunk and 4E-style tactical games are still pretty rare, being the newest old versions), that anyone who feels like this isn't "their" D&D should be able to find a version of the game that is pretty easily.</p><p></p><p>And judging by online conversations/yelling about the 2024 art (and tonal) direction, this would be an ideal time to try and find groups to play <a href="https://necroticgnome.com/" target="_blank">Old School Essentials</a>, <a href="https://goodman-games.com/dungeon-crawl-classics-rpg/" target="_blank">Dungeon Crawl Classics</a>, <a href="https://www.thearcanelibrary.com/pages/shadowdark" target="_blank">Shadowdark</a>, <a href="https://morkborg.com/" target="_blank">Mork Borg</a>, <a href="https://trolllord.com/castles-crusades/" target="_blank">Castles & Crusades</a>, or literally dozens of other well-supported OSR or OSR-adjacent games with art and tones that will feel like coming home to people who started with OD&D, 1E, BD&D or 2E. Nearly everything TSR has ever produced is available online nowadays through DriveThruRPG/DMs Guild and more content for each of those rulesets is produced <em>new</em> each year than TSR did in its entire lifetime.</p><p></p><p>If the 2024 books being aimed at Gen Z and Gen Alpha players frustrates you, there are so many, many amazing games that play like the D&D games you loved (or shhh, sometimes even better) just waiting for you and your like-minded friends to pick them up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 9475126, member: 11760"] I got yelled at previously by WotC ride-or-die types for saying this, but this edition of D&D is making some specific choices about what kind of game it most naturally supports and who it thinks its target audience is. (Note that some marketing types may try to walk this back and argue that [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/tales-of-the-valiant-game-masters-guide-impressions.707049/#post-9473082']you can play everything under the sun[/URL] with this edition, because that's the job of marketers.) And that's OK! I know you know this, [USER=6984869]@Jahydin[/USER], but there are so many D&D offshoots and clones now, of nearly every flavor (pure 3E dungeonpunk and 4E-style tactical games are still pretty rare, being the newest old versions), that anyone who feels like this isn't "their" D&D should be able to find a version of the game that is pretty easily. And judging by online conversations/yelling about the 2024 art (and tonal) direction, this would be an ideal time to try and find groups to play [URL='https://necroticgnome.com/']Old School Essentials[/URL], [URL='https://goodman-games.com/dungeon-crawl-classics-rpg/']Dungeon Crawl Classics[/URL], [URL='https://www.thearcanelibrary.com/pages/shadowdark']Shadowdark[/URL], [URL='https://morkborg.com/']Mork Borg[/URL], [URL='https://trolllord.com/castles-crusades/']Castles & Crusades[/URL], or literally dozens of other well-supported OSR or OSR-adjacent games with art and tones that will feel like coming home to people who started with OD&D, 1E, BD&D or 2E. Nearly everything TSR has ever produced is available online nowadays through DriveThruRPG/DMs Guild and more content for each of those rulesets is produced [I]new[/I] each year than TSR did in its entire lifetime. If the 2024 books being aimed at Gen Z and Gen Alpha players frustrates you, there are so many, many amazing games that play like the D&D games you loved (or shhh, sometimes even better) just waiting for you and your like-minded friends to pick them up. [/QUOTE]
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