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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5209217" data-attributes="member: 82106">I don't care if they are at any specific power level, the issue is that if you have a game feature that is transparently superior in every mechanical way to all other choices then it renders those other choices rather moot. Now, obviously ED choices SHOULD be largely about fluff and RP. Players shouldn't have to feel punished because the ED that fits their character concept so well is mechanically trash and this other ED lets the other players ignore flavor and just tromp all over you.When analyzing Draconic Incarnate specifically what I see is that the stat bump is effectively identical to Demigod. The fact that some other class might not find that stat bump ideal is irrelevant to my character that can take advantage of it. Basically at a simplistic level of analysis roughly 1/3 of all PCs should have INT as a primary or secondary, so that aspect is widely applicable anyway. Even if its 20 or 25% its still MECHANICALLY identical to the Demigod bump for a lot of PCs.The DI utility power is nothing earth shattering, but its not exactly BAD. No, it isn't as good as 26-30 regeneration but how huge is that regen really? Its very nice but healing at those levels is something you should have in abundance anyway. At least the DI polymorph is a UNIQUE type of power that has plenty of RP potential and even a modest amount of tactical combat utility (sometimes being HUGE is an advantage for example, and flight is never a bad thing). Honestly I would rate them as not much different.The recovery ability of Demigod is just flat out inferior to that of DI. The DI one has a couple of minor strings attached to it that may or may not even be relevant in a given situation but it gives you effectively 4x more than you get from the Demigod one, so sign me up!And as you said, Divine Miracle is pretty clearly inferior to having 2 level 25 daily powers for free. Even pre-nerf it was arguable (how often do you REALLY need more than 4 encounter powers) and post-nerf its not really arguable.So CLEARLY Draconic Incarnate is stronger than Demigod mechanically. Given that Demigod was strong enough WotC felt the need to nerf it because it was overshadowing other EDs its kind of hard to argue that DI isn't in the same category. Its just, relative to ALL other EDs superior for a pretty decent percentage of characters (maybe between 1/3 and 1/2 of them depending). It just seem to me rather sloppy of them to publish something that is OP out of the gate and sure to get the old sponge bat. Better to design it with the right power level in mind from day one instead of having to saw a leg off the thing the day after it sees print.</blockquote>

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