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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 7962679" data-attributes="member: 71699"><p>I think what you are saying here is that there is a pattern of ascending numbers for sizes and it is in obedience of that pattern that we set the RAI (and more recently, the errata).</p><p></p><p>So the question would be, why not go the other way? Why not say that seeing as 3 is also right next to 2, we should expect to see an errata bringing medium creatures into the family of non-heavy weapon users? I don't think this can really be about the scale or the numbers. It's more about bigness. Heaviness associates in our minds with bigness, so if a small thing can't use a heavy thing, then an even smaller thing certainly should not be able to. We bring that into the game as a consequence of what we see in rl: the simulationist argument that you earlier raised. And yet, the game is not rl and has some profound points of difference from rl.</p><p></p><p>The underlying rule that I am looking for is what separates the cases?</p><p></p><p></p><p>That might be it, but perhaps something else is going on. I think actually that most people see it as common sense to change <em>healing spirit</em>. The difference is that where the change to tiny is very narrow and chimes well with common sense, it is hard to apply a common sense intuition to the number of heals a spell should afford. Is 1+mod right, maybe 1+mod*2 would be better? How about 4? It feels pretty arbitrary.</p><p></p><p>Maybe the cases separate not on if a change is justified, but on how whether there is any friction with intuitions? That would be to say that it is okay for errata to change RAW (assuming you accept my argument that stripped of common sense the tiny change really is a change to RAW) so long as the change is utterly uncontentious. So a justified rule change in errata is one where both the motive for the change, and the change itself, chime with almost everyone's common sense.</p><p></p><p>This would be to say that errata should be utterly conservative in its rule changes. It should not have touched <em>healing spirit</em> unless a design had been found that perfectly chimed with intuitions. On the other hand, it was okay to fix tiny because motive and design chimed with everyone's intuitions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 7962679, member: 71699"] I think what you are saying here is that there is a pattern of ascending numbers for sizes and it is in obedience of that pattern that we set the RAI (and more recently, the errata). So the question would be, why not go the other way? Why not say that seeing as 3 is also right next to 2, we should expect to see an errata bringing medium creatures into the family of non-heavy weapon users? I don't think this can really be about the scale or the numbers. It's more about bigness. Heaviness associates in our minds with bigness, so if a small thing can't use a heavy thing, then an even smaller thing certainly should not be able to. We bring that into the game as a consequence of what we see in rl: the simulationist argument that you earlier raised. And yet, the game is not rl and has some profound points of difference from rl. The underlying rule that I am looking for is what separates the cases? That might be it, but perhaps something else is going on. I think actually that most people see it as common sense to change [I]healing spirit[/I]. The difference is that where the change to tiny is very narrow and chimes well with common sense, it is hard to apply a common sense intuition to the number of heals a spell should afford. Is 1+mod right, maybe 1+mod*2 would be better? How about 4? It feels pretty arbitrary. Maybe the cases separate not on if a change is justified, but on how whether there is any friction with intuitions? That would be to say that it is okay for errata to change RAW (assuming you accept my argument that stripped of common sense the tiny change really is a change to RAW) so long as the change is utterly uncontentious. So a justified rule change in errata is one where both the motive for the change, and the change itself, chime with almost everyone's common sense. This would be to say that errata should be utterly conservative in its rule changes. It should not have touched [I]healing spirit[/I] unless a design had been found that perfectly chimed with intuitions. On the other hand, it was okay to fix tiny because motive and design chimed with everyone's intuitions. [/QUOTE]
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