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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6637842" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Personally, I see that as being for the "rabid" (not the word I'd use) simulationists, not the rules-lawyers. Then again, I am perfectly okay with accepting the idea of a <em>prone gelatinous cube</em>, so I may not be defining "rules lawyer" in quite the same way you do.</p><p></p><p>Edit:</p><p>Also, the thing I find funny about this errata is that a true "natural language" reading would seem to indicate that being surrounded by a cloud of unnatural darkness <em>doesn't prevent you from seeing anything outside it,</em> so it acts more like a column of total invisibility. Unless being inside it makes everything <em>outside</em> it also "obscured by it," in which case it would seem to be literally verbiage without a point. Other than, as mentioned, the "appeasement" meaning. To clarify my "simulationist" thing above, the appeasement would seem to be, "Okay, okay, we get it--being trapped in thick fog doesn't mean your eyes <em>don't work</em>, it means your eyes <em>have nothing to work with</em>. We get it. Here's a phrasing that doesn't imply your eyes stop working."</p><p></p><p>I mean, unless there's some kind of extra-special feature or something that only works on people with the Blinded condition? I don't know enough about 5e to respond to that, other than to say that I've never heard of such a feature, nor anything that would exploit it that *couldn't* exploit it with the errata'd text anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 6637842, member: 6790260"] Personally, I see that as being for the "rabid" (not the word I'd use) simulationists, not the rules-lawyers. Then again, I am perfectly okay with accepting the idea of a [I]prone gelatinous cube[/I], so I may not be defining "rules lawyer" in quite the same way you do. Edit: Also, the thing I find funny about this errata is that a true "natural language" reading would seem to indicate that being surrounded by a cloud of unnatural darkness [I]doesn't prevent you from seeing anything outside it,[/I] so it acts more like a column of total invisibility. Unless being inside it makes everything [I]outside[/I] it also "obscured by it," in which case it would seem to be literally verbiage without a point. Other than, as mentioned, the "appeasement" meaning. To clarify my "simulationist" thing above, the appeasement would seem to be, "Okay, okay, we get it--being trapped in thick fog doesn't mean your eyes [I]don't work[/I], it means your eyes [I]have nothing to work with[/I]. We get it. Here's a phrasing that doesn't imply your eyes stop working." I mean, unless there's some kind of extra-special feature or something that only works on people with the Blinded condition? I don't know enough about 5e to respond to that, other than to say that I've never heard of such a feature, nor anything that would exploit it that *couldn't* exploit it with the errata'd text anyway. [/QUOTE]
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