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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2623935" data-attributes="member: 23094">1.&nbsp; The &quot;generic&quot; rules on prerequisites call out that, in the case of spell prerequisites, they must be prepared or known by the creator.2.&nbsp; The &quot;generic&quot; rules on prerequisites also say, however, that items or another caster can assist by providing prerequisites - including spell prerequisites.3.&nbsp; The scroll rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared.You say that this means the specific case (the scroll rules; creator must know or prepare) overrides the general case (an assisting caster may know or prepare).However:4.&nbsp; The &quot;magic armor&quot; rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared.5.&nbsp; The &quot;magic weapon&quot; rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared.6.&nbsp; The &quot;potion&quot; rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared.7.&nbsp; The &quot;rod&quot; rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared.8.&nbsp; The &quot;staff&quot; rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared.9.&nbsp; The &quot;wand&quot; rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared.10.&nbsp; The &quot;wondrous item&quot; rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared.11.&nbsp; The &quot;ring&quot; rules hint that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared.So, either you must accept that this is not a case of the specific overriding the general (that the scroll rules, just like every other magic item, are merely restating part of the general case) or accept that assisting casters cannot provide spell prereqs - except possibly in the case of rings, and even then, you can't use items to meet the prereqs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2623935, member: 23094"] 1. The "generic" rules on prerequisites call out that, in the case of spell prerequisites, they must be prepared or known by the creator. 2. The "generic" rules on prerequisites also say, however, that items or another caster can assist by providing prerequisites - including spell prerequisites. 3. The scroll rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared. You say that this means the specific case (the scroll rules; creator must know or prepare) overrides the general case (an assisting caster may know or prepare). However: 4. The "magic armor" rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared. 5. The "magic weapon" rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared. 6. The "potion" rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared. 7. The "rod" rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared. 8. The "staff" rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared. 9. The "wand" rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared. 10. The "wondrous item" rules say that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared. 11. The "ring" rules hint that the creator must have the spell prerequisites known or prepared. So, either you must accept that this is not a case of the specific overriding the general (that the scroll rules, just like every other magic item, are merely restating part of the general case) or accept that assisting casters cannot provide spell prereqs - except possibly in the case of rings, and even then, you can't use items to meet the prereqs. [/QUOTE]

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