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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2626034" data-attributes="member: 31734">I don't see why not.&nbsp;Then, unless it's a ring, the creator needs to be multiclass.&nbsp; With all due respect, that's a lot of hogwash and you know it.&nbsp; You're solely arguing intent and nothing more.&nbsp; The rules discussing magical item creation in general are clearly the general rules.&nbsp; The subsections for each type of item, be it scrolls, rods, et al, are the specific rules.&nbsp; It's as simple as that.&nbsp; For you to just come out and state that, &quot;No, actually the specific rules on scrolls are not specific at all&quot; is a logical fallacy - the name of which escapes me at the moment.&nbsp;How does that negate cooperation?&nbsp; How is my example not cooperation?&nbsp; Do you disagree that other examples are trivially generated?&nbsp;The point he was making is that mithril is a specific rule overriding the general rule on medium and heavy armor.&nbsp; By analogy, if the rule we are currently discussing is not a specific rule, then neither is mithril or a host of other rules.&nbsp;Right.Okay, so now enough with the hypothetical questions and snide remarks and explain to me how the general rule overrides the specific rule, without attempting to appeal to reason.&nbsp; Patryn and Hyp, both of you I would expect to be able to read the actual rule stated without coloring it with what you perceive as intent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 2626034, member: 31734"] I don't see why not. Then, unless it's a ring, the creator needs to be multiclass. With all due respect, that's a lot of hogwash and you know it. You're solely arguing intent and nothing more. The rules discussing magical item creation in general are clearly the general rules. The subsections for each type of item, be it scrolls, rods, et al, are the specific rules. It's as simple as that. For you to just come out and state that, "No, actually the specific rules on scrolls are not specific at all" is a logical fallacy - the name of which escapes me at the moment. How does that negate cooperation? How is my example not cooperation? Do you disagree that other examples are trivially generated? The point he was making is that mithril is a specific rule overriding the general rule on medium and heavy armor. By analogy, if the rule we are currently discussing is not a specific rule, then neither is mithril or a host of other rules. Right. Okay, so now enough with the hypothetical questions and snide remarks and explain to me how the general rule overrides the specific rule, without attempting to appeal to reason. Patryn and Hyp, both of you I would expect to be able to read the actual rule stated without coloring it with what you perceive as intent. [/QUOTE]

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