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<blockquote data-quote="youspoonybard" data-source="post: 1279283" data-attributes="member: 12242"><p>Hyp, could you explain the last entry to me? </p><p></p><p>"The text on page 289 in the DUNGEON MASTER’s Guide</p><p>says a supernatural ability cannot be dispelled. Table 8-1 on</p><p>the next page, however, says it can. Which one is right? If</p><p>supernatural abilities cannot be dispelled, can they be</p><p>removed or countered in other ways? What would happen,</p><p>for example, if a medusa turns my character to stone? Can</p><p>anything restore my character?</p><p>The table is wrong. While you cannot dispel a supernatural</p><p>ability with the dispel magic spell, you can remove or reverse</p><p>its effects on an area, object (but not one in the supernatural</p><p>ability user’s possession), or creature (but not the ability user</p><p>itself) in other ways. For instance, the petrified victim in your</p><p>example can be restored through a break enchantment spell or a</p><p>stone to flesh spell. Supernatural effects are not subject to</p><p>counterspelling, but some of them can be countered in other</p><p>ways if they have the right descriptor (or if they duplicate spells</p><p>with the right descriptor). For example, the darkmantle’s</p><p>supernatural darkness ability duplicates the 2nd-level darkness</p><p>spell, which has the darkness descriptor. This ability counters</p><p>and dispels any light effect of its level or lower, and the 3rdlevel</p><p>daylight spell (which counters and dispels all darkness</p><p>effects of its level or lower) negates the darkness created by a</p><p>darkmantle’s darkness ability.</p><p>Likewise, spells such as dispel evil can remove</p><p>supernatural enchantment effects if they duplicate spells that</p><p>can otherwise be dispelled. For example a dispel evil spell will</p><p>remove a vampire’s dominate person effect from a victim.</p><p>Similarly spells that block mental control, such as protection</p><p>from evil or magic circle against evil, suppress the effects of a</p><p>vampire’s dominate person ability, as noted in their spell</p><p>descriptions."</p><p></p><p>- 3.5 Main FAQ. </p><p></p><p>I've had party members dominated by SU abilities and the like, before. It was bad. I don't think I understand this passage very well. When, exactly, can you use spells to remove the effects of SU abilities?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="youspoonybard, post: 1279283, member: 12242"] Hyp, could you explain the last entry to me? "The text on page 289 in the DUNGEON MASTER’s Guide says a supernatural ability cannot be dispelled. Table 8-1 on the next page, however, says it can. Which one is right? If supernatural abilities cannot be dispelled, can they be removed or countered in other ways? What would happen, for example, if a medusa turns my character to stone? Can anything restore my character? The table is wrong. While you cannot dispel a supernatural ability with the dispel magic spell, you can remove or reverse its effects on an area, object (but not one in the supernatural ability user’s possession), or creature (but not the ability user itself) in other ways. For instance, the petrified victim in your example can be restored through a break enchantment spell or a stone to flesh spell. Supernatural effects are not subject to counterspelling, but some of them can be countered in other ways if they have the right descriptor (or if they duplicate spells with the right descriptor). For example, the darkmantle’s supernatural darkness ability duplicates the 2nd-level darkness spell, which has the darkness descriptor. This ability counters and dispels any light effect of its level or lower, and the 3rdlevel daylight spell (which counters and dispels all darkness effects of its level or lower) negates the darkness created by a darkmantle’s darkness ability. Likewise, spells such as dispel evil can remove supernatural enchantment effects if they duplicate spells that can otherwise be dispelled. For example a dispel evil spell will remove a vampire’s dominate person effect from a victim. Similarly spells that block mental control, such as protection from evil or magic circle against evil, suppress the effects of a vampire’s dominate person ability, as noted in their spell descriptions." - 3.5 Main FAQ. I've had party members dominated by SU abilities and the like, before. It was bad. I don't think I understand this passage very well. When, exactly, can you use spells to remove the effects of SU abilities? [/QUOTE]
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