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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moon-Lancer" data-source="post: 2727173" data-attributes="member: 35798">I Still find these spells very upsetting, as I like playing druids. This is what my dm did. The type of the original creature does not change in wildshape (i am still unsure of this because basically I use exalted wildshape so she may allow it if I do not use exalted wildshape. ether way I’m not testing it as of yet.using alter self or polymorph from a non human to a human does not grant you an extra feat, however if turning into a wolf with polymorph or wildshape would grant the bonus feat track, because the feat comes from a more physical aspect of the creature. A human using wildshape keeps all his human stuff as wellOther player handbook races would keep their abilities but not ability adjustmentsexample. AN elf would keep the hidden doors ability,  and their racial skill bonus. The animal they would be turning into would give them a circumstance bonus to skills, not a racial one. in wildshape or polymorph, a creature keeps their old vision type but may also gain the vision type of the new creature. A wildshaped elf (and other player handbook races) would keep their own mind and still be effected by hold person but not by hold animal. no templits, or advanced creaturescreatures that have advancement charts are avalable like the hydraabilitys gained from the new form use the old creatures hit dice and non physical stat to determin effect or dc. example: Dragons Breath attackThat’s how we play. Allot harder to abuse and makes allot more sense. it really emphasizes that your barrowing a shape and emulating its ability.</blockquote>

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