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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TorgoTheWhite" data-source="post: 9814621" data-attributes="member: 7051716">On the OP I recommended more constructive posting... but if you want to debate the application of the new feats I can, it just seems like you won't be seeing any virtues to them, but heres we go...Optimizers exist so for one specific class you feel cold caster will eliminate the other options... I don't agree with this narrow view, I  don't agree that even every elements monk always wants to stun or impose non-stop saves, or that the opportunity cost of getting this one feat supersedes all other choices, or that OTHER subclasses lose diversity by this option existing... if any class pigeon-holes with this one specific feat, it is the Winter Ranger anyhow. A martial class can use garbage vex weapons so a feat that allows you to totally map a different martial is obsolete or mid? That is arguing against yourself, it is a feat that enables you to diversify by not using a poopy vex weapon. I would love to guild a "all in" martial that hits harder when he gets slapped. Change to a sap weapon and have a higher chance of applying sap to multiple enemies. Start combat with reckless attack as the barb, but also plan a barb that can switch to defensive mode when bloodied. Instead of the classic barbarian complaint of: "no choice other than reckless"... None of this is mentioning the temp HP boost that can bring you other directions.</blockquote>