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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hawk Diesel" data-source="post: 7467977" data-attributes="member: 59848">If I do that, it decreases the damage significantly to the point that I don't see a person taking the fighting style since it is so inferior to the other styles using optimized weapons. So while it would limit abuse of combining with other fighting styles, it would ONLY become viable if you combine it with other fighting styles. If the goal is to have the fighting style stand on its own while reducing possibility of abuse, then we need to consider something else. I agree. But sadly, that isn't a thing in 5e. :-(  Not sure I follow. Yea, I don't like the "requires a free hand to use." Combining TWF and Swift Striker seems to only moderately increase DPR over TWF or Swift Striker alone. Before extra attack, the difference is about 2 points of damage, with the difference falling for each additional attack until the difference of only 0.5 damage when a fighter can get 3 attacks with the attack action. And actually, combining Dueling style with Swift Fighter also puts it in relative range of TWF alone. The problem is that not only is it typically slightly higher than TWF, but you also get access to a shield. This assessment would change if we assume feats and give the TWF the Dual Wielder feat, putting them at about equal AC and damage output, but if we require a feat investment to equate the synergy, it points to an imbalance from my perspective.But then, is the imbalance great enough to be a concern? I mean, gaining multiple Fighting Styles is really only achievable with a Champion Fighter, through multiclassing, or with a feat investment if you have a feat that allows acquisition of a fighting style (which I do have). The question becomes, is the opportunity cost for multiclassing or the feat tax great enough to balance out increased DPR and AC?I feel like I kind of vacillate between yes and no. Is the synergy of the fighting styles powerful? Sure. Is it so powerful that everyone that takes it would multiclass for another fighting style? Or is it so powerful that everyone that took this style would also grab a feat to combine it with another fighting style? I'm not sure.</blockquote>

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