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<blockquote data-quote="Primal" data-source="post: 4735376" data-attributes="member: 30678"><p>I think it sucked, too; not only had my players read the novels by the time I tried to introduce it to "my" Realms (by running the official adventures), but my campaigns also suffered from losing Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul -- all of who were my favorite deities (and their followers were my favorite villains as a DM). How could I replace them with Cyric? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/cry.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":.-(" title="Cry :.-(" data-shortname=":.-(" /></p><p></p><p>It's wasn't just me; Myrkul and Xvim were very popular among the DMs I know (for example, in one of the campaigns I'm playing in we're still hunting the Crown of Horns after all these years). </p><p></p><p>Then, during 2E, Xvim ascended to divinity, and I slowly grew to like him enough to introduce the Risen Godson to my then-current campaign (and I foreshadowed it in a major way). And what did they do next? Killed him, that's what they did; turned out it had been the "new" Bane (I had pictured Bane as Witch King of Angmar-ish, but now he appeared as a naked, green and bald giant... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" />) in disguise. So, overnight, Bane had returned... but not into my campaign. I decided to go with Cyricists, for a while, so that I could "play up" the ascension of Bane (Xvimists quickly "faded" into the background as their god struggled against his father). I began to like Cyric, too, as years went by, and thought I would never use Bane again in my Realms. And what happened next... is that Cyric is imprisoned for a 1000 years. *Sigh*. Yeah, Bane would still be a choice for me, if I chose to run 4E FR, but his "new looks" don't appeal to me (even less his new symbol, the pronged weird claw-thing). </p><p></p><p>Damn you, design team... why have you always killed/imprisoned my favorite evil deities? If you had to kill someone, why not the "Gothic Chakram Chick", i.e. oh-so-overused Shar? </p><p></p><p>On-Topic: I don't think they hate FR; they just don't have any great passions about it (IIRC none of the WoTC staff had run FR campaigns in-house for years). Ed, who certainly loves the Realms, was given a "new" corner of FR to write about, so that the fans couldn't claim he was left out; yet his work would not "jeopardize" their new goal for less details in the main areas, because it would be about a relatively distant part of the setting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Primal, post: 4735376, member: 30678"] I think it sucked, too; not only had my players read the novels by the time I tried to introduce it to "my" Realms (by running the official adventures), but my campaigns also suffered from losing Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul -- all of who were my favorite deities (and their followers were my favorite villains as a DM). How could I replace them with Cyric? :.-( It's wasn't just me; Myrkul and Xvim were very popular among the DMs I know (for example, in one of the campaigns I'm playing in we're still hunting the Crown of Horns after all these years). Then, during 2E, Xvim ascended to divinity, and I slowly grew to like him enough to introduce the Risen Godson to my then-current campaign (and I foreshadowed it in a major way). And what did they do next? Killed him, that's what they did; turned out it had been the "new" Bane (I had pictured Bane as Witch King of Angmar-ish, but now he appeared as a naked, green and bald giant... :hmm:) in disguise. So, overnight, Bane had returned... but not into my campaign. I decided to go with Cyricists, for a while, so that I could "play up" the ascension of Bane (Xvimists quickly "faded" into the background as their god struggled against his father). I began to like Cyric, too, as years went by, and thought I would never use Bane again in my Realms. And what happened next... is that Cyric is imprisoned for a 1000 years. *Sigh*. Yeah, Bane would still be a choice for me, if I chose to run 4E FR, but his "new looks" don't appeal to me (even less his new symbol, the pronged weird claw-thing). Damn you, design team... why have you always killed/imprisoned my favorite evil deities? If you had to kill someone, why not the "Gothic Chakram Chick", i.e. oh-so-overused Shar? On-Topic: I don't think they hate FR; they just don't have any great passions about it (IIRC none of the WoTC staff had run FR campaigns in-house for years). Ed, who certainly loves the Realms, was given a "new" corner of FR to write about, so that the fans couldn't claim he was left out; yet his work would not "jeopardize" their new goal for less details in the main areas, because it would be about a relatively distant part of the setting. [/QUOTE]
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