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<blockquote data-quote="Wicht" data-source="post: 84743" data-attributes="member: 221"><p>A couple clarifications incase anybody is still confused - this is still the planning stages of this discussion. Nothing has been implemented and no styles have yet to be changed. </p><p></p><p>Also, I notice a lot of people worried about overlapping (as in how many blades are there). This is a bit silly as overlapping cannot be helped. A dragon is both a wyrm and a reptile, breaths fire and has claws and fangs. A number of defenses will always affect it however. I will add that some styles are just naturally more impressive than others (dragon vs. toad for instance) and viewed in this way the overlapping is not as serious an issue. The main objective as I see it is to try and make sure that each style as a <em>potential</em> defense against it. </p><p></p><p>How these defenses and styles play out in real game is a matter for each individual judge to decide for themselves. </p><p></p><p>So here is a current list to debate - what we want is 25 pairs and 25 defenses. As more suggestions are made I will alter the list. The first two words are the style and the words in parenthesis are the related defense</p><p></p><p>Oh and Leviathan and Kraken just do not sound like styles to me (unless you are Godzilla), so I picked shark to pair with Manta-ray</p><p></p><p>1. Snake, Lizard (reptile)</p><p>2. crane, falcon (bird)</p><p>3. fox, wolf (canine)</p><p>4. tiger, panther (cat)</p><p>5. rabbit, rat (rodent)</p><p>6. spider, scorpion (vermin)</p><p>7. crab, turtle (shell)</p><p>8. Manta Ray, Shark (fish)</p><p>9. Cherry Blossum, Lotus Blossum (flower)</p><p>10. Willow, Oak (tree)</p><p>11. Vine, Rose (garden)</p><p>12. dagger, sword (blade)</p><p>13. Needle, spear (arrow)</p><p>14. hammer, mace (iron)</p><p>15. staff, chopstick (wood)</p><p>16. kama, scythe (sickle)</p><p>17. cane, fan (nobility)</p><p>18. claw, fang (tooth and nail)</p><p>19. wyvern, dragon (wyrm)</p><p>20. unicorn, ki-rin (horn)</p><p>21. chimera, manticore (abomination)</p><p>22. pheonix, roc (???)</p><p>23. rain, thunder (storm)</p><p>24. West-wind, East-wind (breeze)</p><p>25. Blizzard, North-star (snow)</p><p></p><p>some obviously weak ones are 11, 15, 17, 22 (where we need a defense besides bird) and 25.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wicht, post: 84743, member: 221"] A couple clarifications incase anybody is still confused - this is still the planning stages of this discussion. Nothing has been implemented and no styles have yet to be changed. Also, I notice a lot of people worried about overlapping (as in how many blades are there). This is a bit silly as overlapping cannot be helped. A dragon is both a wyrm and a reptile, breaths fire and has claws and fangs. A number of defenses will always affect it however. I will add that some styles are just naturally more impressive than others (dragon vs. toad for instance) and viewed in this way the overlapping is not as serious an issue. The main objective as I see it is to try and make sure that each style as a [i]potential[/i] defense against it. How these defenses and styles play out in real game is a matter for each individual judge to decide for themselves. So here is a current list to debate - what we want is 25 pairs and 25 defenses. As more suggestions are made I will alter the list. The first two words are the style and the words in parenthesis are the related defense Oh and Leviathan and Kraken just do not sound like styles to me (unless you are Godzilla), so I picked shark to pair with Manta-ray 1. Snake, Lizard (reptile) 2. crane, falcon (bird) 3. fox, wolf (canine) 4. tiger, panther (cat) 5. rabbit, rat (rodent) 6. spider, scorpion (vermin) 7. crab, turtle (shell) 8. Manta Ray, Shark (fish) 9. Cherry Blossum, Lotus Blossum (flower) 10. Willow, Oak (tree) 11. Vine, Rose (garden) 12. dagger, sword (blade) 13. Needle, spear (arrow) 14. hammer, mace (iron) 15. staff, chopstick (wood) 16. kama, scythe (sickle) 17. cane, fan (nobility) 18. claw, fang (tooth and nail) 19. wyvern, dragon (wyrm) 20. unicorn, ki-rin (horn) 21. chimera, manticore (abomination) 22. pheonix, roc (???) 23. rain, thunder (storm) 24. West-wind, East-wind (breeze) 25. Blizzard, North-star (snow) some obviously weak ones are 11, 15, 17, 22 (where we need a defense besides bird) and 25. [/QUOTE]
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