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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9555549" data-attributes="member: 18">That's a truly weird take then, because the 5E HtR is absolutely not at all as you describe &quot;anarcho-primitivist&quot;, whereas the oWoD HtR 100% was. The 5E HtR is on the contrary aggressively hypermodern, and there are absolutely support organisations to the point where you're probably taking to fellow hunters on WhatsApp and doing gig-work killing monsters assigned to you by an app, and being paid by a corporation or the like! Nothing about it is anarchist or primitivist (unless you think working for GrubHub is!). Whereas in oWoD HtR you were magically chosen individuals and only your magic could fight monsters, which arguably was both of those things.I agree that the 5E editions are typically a downgrade compared to both oWoD (including 20A editions) and nWoD, but your description is just way off here, like, just as inaccurate as the title of HtR 5E is!Like, are you sure you read the 2022 5E HtR? This one:[ATTACH=full]392990[/ATTACH]Not the 1999 one:[ATTACH=full]392991[/ATTACH]Because those are two wildly dissimilar books. And Hunter: The Vigil (2008) is much more similar to the 2022 one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9555549, member: 18"] That's a truly weird take then, because the 5E HtR is absolutely not at all as you describe "anarcho-primitivist", whereas the oWoD HtR 100% was. The 5E HtR is on the contrary [I]aggressively hypermodern[/I], and there are absolutely support organisations to the point where you're probably taking to fellow hunters on WhatsApp and doing gig-work killing monsters assigned to you by an app, and being paid by a corporation or the like! Nothing about it is anarchist or primitivist (unless you think working for GrubHub is!). Whereas in oWoD HtR you were magically chosen individuals and only your [I]magic[/I] could fight monsters, which arguably was both of those things. I agree that the 5E editions are typically a downgrade compared to both oWoD (including 20A editions) and nWoD, but your description is just way off here, like, just as inaccurate as the title of HtR 5E is! Like, are you sure you read the 2022 5E HtR? This one: [ATTACH type="full" width="208px" alt="1736886598269.png"]392990[/ATTACH] Not the 1999 one: [ATTACH type="full" alt="1736886692079.png"]392991[/ATTACH] Because those are two wildly dissimilar books. And Hunter: The Vigil (2008) is much more similar to the 2022 one. [/QUOTE]

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