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<blockquote data-quote="Devon" data-source="post: 220342" data-attributes="member: 1446"><p>I like it... an imaginative twist on the typical giant.</p><p></p><p>Now for some input on the numbers:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The hit points should read: 14d8+84(147 hp). </p><p></p><p>Average 14d8 would be 14*4.5 (which is 63). The bonus hp from Con should be 84, as its Con bonus is +6.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>AC should be 20.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This should read: 2 slams +18/+13 melee; or rock +8/+3 ranged</p><p></p><p>Its slam attacks should be +18/+13, as its BAB is 10 and it gets +10 for its Str bonus and a -2 for its size. Its rock attack should be based on Dex (BAB 10 +0 for Dex bonus, -2 for size), so it would read rock +8/+3.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see how the acid damage would apply to the rock unless the swamp giant had REALLY active acid glands, or took special care to slime up the rocks "good n'proper." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A 14-HD giant's base saves would be +9/+4/+4. The swamp giant has a +6 to its Fortitude for Con, plus another +2 for Great Fortitude, making its Fort save +17 (right on). The swamp giant has no Dex bonus, so its Reflex save would remain +4, and and it has a +1 bonus to its Will save for its Wisdom, so its saves should be:</p><p></p><p>Saves: Fort +17, Ref+4, Will +5</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The swamp giant should have 15 skill points. Taking away its stat bonuses, there appear to be only 7 skill points here. </p><p></p><p>Base skills: 6 + int bonus (which is -1), +1/EHD, where Extra Hit Dice = HD- 4 (Huge creature) = 10.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There should be only 3 feats... a giant gets 1 feat (+1/4 EHD) where EHD = 10.</p><p></p><p>You can, of course, give it a bonus feat if you need to, as long as it is calculated into its CR.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have its CR calculated to the high end of 12, but that should be playtested.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Its advancement can be up to 3 times its original hit dice (so up to 42 HD) should you choose to use it.</p><p></p><p>All in all, wonderful concept. I hope these bookkeeping points help.</p><p></p><p>- Devon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Devon, post: 220342, member: 1446"] I like it... an imaginative twist on the typical giant. Now for some input on the numbers: The hit points should read: 14d8+84(147 hp). Average 14d8 would be 14*4.5 (which is 63). The bonus hp from Con should be 84, as its Con bonus is +6. AC should be 20. This should read: 2 slams +18/+13 melee; or rock +8/+3 ranged Its slam attacks should be +18/+13, as its BAB is 10 and it gets +10 for its Str bonus and a -2 for its size. Its rock attack should be based on Dex (BAB 10 +0 for Dex bonus, -2 for size), so it would read rock +8/+3. I don't see how the acid damage would apply to the rock unless the swamp giant had REALLY active acid glands, or took special care to slime up the rocks "good n'proper." :) A 14-HD giant's base saves would be +9/+4/+4. The swamp giant has a +6 to its Fortitude for Con, plus another +2 for Great Fortitude, making its Fort save +17 (right on). The swamp giant has no Dex bonus, so its Reflex save would remain +4, and and it has a +1 bonus to its Will save for its Wisdom, so its saves should be: Saves: Fort +17, Ref+4, Will +5 The swamp giant should have 15 skill points. Taking away its stat bonuses, there appear to be only 7 skill points here. Base skills: 6 + int bonus (which is -1), +1/EHD, where Extra Hit Dice = HD- 4 (Huge creature) = 10. There should be only 3 feats... a giant gets 1 feat (+1/4 EHD) where EHD = 10. You can, of course, give it a bonus feat if you need to, as long as it is calculated into its CR. I have its CR calculated to the high end of 12, but that should be playtested. Its advancement can be up to 3 times its original hit dice (so up to 42 HD) should you choose to use it. All in all, wonderful concept. I hope these bookkeeping points help. - Devon [/QUOTE]
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