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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 867932" data-attributes="member: 3586"><p>Fighters gain iterative attacks, wizards gain more powerful spells. The two are balanced against each other.</p><p></p><p>When wizards can cast two 9th level spells per round, they're twice as powerful as the fighter.</p><p></p><p>Consider a 5th level fighter and a 5th level wizard.</p><p></p><p>The 5th level fighter probably has a +10 attack bonus or so and a weapon that deals 2d6+9 - or 16 average - damage to one creature per round.</p><p></p><p>The 5th level wizard has a <em>fireball</em> spell that deals 5d6 damage - or 17.5 average - damage to multiple creatures in a single round, with a DC of 16 or 18 for half-damage.</p><p></p><p>At high levels, the fighter is getting four attacks per round, and dealing great amounts of damage - generally to just one creature, because they're so tough.</p><p></p><p>The wizard is going "save or die" to his or her opponents.</p><p></p><p>Seems that there is a balance there.</p><p></p><p>There are opponents the wizard finds easy and the fighter struggles against; and vice versa.</p><p></p><p>In the context of the game, you don't want the wizard nor the fighter being useless for most of the combats. The 3E version of <em>haste</em> just made the wizard so much more useful in combat than the fighter that this essential aspect of balance was disturbed.</p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 867932, member: 3586"] Fighters gain iterative attacks, wizards gain more powerful spells. The two are balanced against each other. When wizards can cast two 9th level spells per round, they're twice as powerful as the fighter. Consider a 5th level fighter and a 5th level wizard. The 5th level fighter probably has a +10 attack bonus or so and a weapon that deals 2d6+9 - or 16 average - damage to one creature per round. The 5th level wizard has a [i]fireball[/i] spell that deals 5d6 damage - or 17.5 average - damage to multiple creatures in a single round, with a DC of 16 or 18 for half-damage. At high levels, the fighter is getting four attacks per round, and dealing great amounts of damage - generally to just one creature, because they're so tough. The wizard is going "save or die" to his or her opponents. Seems that there is a balance there. There are opponents the wizard finds easy and the fighter struggles against; and vice versa. In the context of the game, you don't want the wizard nor the fighter being useless for most of the combats. The 3E version of [i]haste[/i] just made the wizard so much more useful in combat than the fighter that this essential aspect of balance was disturbed. Cheers! [/QUOTE]
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