Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is LIVE! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
New hybrid rules: hybrid talent feat just once?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="rainsinger" data-source="post: 4819693" data-attributes="member: 83325"><p>In regards to striker balance (particularly warlock, ranger and rogue with their bonus damage) - I played a ranger/rogue (4th level) last weekend for a pretty long session, and I was putting out anywhere from 20-50 damage a turn (with just at-wills, yeesh - riposte strike and then twin strike is ridiculous).</p><p></p><p>Needless to say, if I could stack sneak attack and quarry, it would be flat out silly. That part of the hybrid balancing I (hate to admit this) completely agree with. I do think that the paragon drop for access to more talents is flat out terrible and needs to be rethought though. IMO, I think that there should be a heroic, paragon and epic tier version of the hybrid talent feat and it should not require anything more than getting to those levels. I put together 6 characters this way and compared them to standard single class characters of the same level with the same gear and as many of the same power choices as possible, and the balance seemed fine overall. Obviously some combinations end up considerably stronger than others, but even then you're still giving up a pretty big chunk of potential abilities to get good "combo" setups.</p><p></p><p>As someone said to me this weekend though, it's going to be hard to imagine a ton of people NOT using hybrids after the full rules are out... the one thing 4th edition lacked in comparison to older editions is that feeling of really customizing your character, hybrid allows a bit more of that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rainsinger, post: 4819693, member: 83325"] In regards to striker balance (particularly warlock, ranger and rogue with their bonus damage) - I played a ranger/rogue (4th level) last weekend for a pretty long session, and I was putting out anywhere from 20-50 damage a turn (with just at-wills, yeesh - riposte strike and then twin strike is ridiculous). Needless to say, if I could stack sneak attack and quarry, it would be flat out silly. That part of the hybrid balancing I (hate to admit this) completely agree with. I do think that the paragon drop for access to more talents is flat out terrible and needs to be rethought though. IMO, I think that there should be a heroic, paragon and epic tier version of the hybrid talent feat and it should not require anything more than getting to those levels. I put together 6 characters this way and compared them to standard single class characters of the same level with the same gear and as many of the same power choices as possible, and the balance seemed fine overall. Obviously some combinations end up considerably stronger than others, but even then you're still giving up a pretty big chunk of potential abilities to get good "combo" setups. As someone said to me this weekend though, it's going to be hard to imagine a ton of people NOT using hybrids after the full rules are out... the one thing 4th edition lacked in comparison to older editions is that feeling of really customizing your character, hybrid allows a bit more of that. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
New hybrid rules: hybrid talent feat just once?
Top