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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8902105" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>There's a bit of a difference between gaming books and everything else you've mentioned. Each book, movie, TV show, game, piece of music--they're all individual, separate things. Even if they're part of a series, they're mostly still separate entities. But all your gaming books add together, meaning you're not getting a new and completely different piece of media, you're getting additional archetypes or additional spells or additional monsters for the <em>same </em>game, and you'll end up having the fighter class and thirty archetypes for it (there are currently 10 of 'em), a thousand different bard spells (currently over 500), and fifty different types of goblins (currently over 20). </p><p></p><p>Sure, maybe you would really enjoy having thirty different fighters archetypes, or even a hundred different fighter archetypes, and that's cool. And maybe you can even <em>use </em>all of those archetypes in your game. Personally, though, there comes a time when I say "I think I have everything I need for this system and anything else would just be too much." </p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, maybe not for <em>you. </em>But considering that that alternative is, and always has been, <em>free</em>, it's a huge hike in price. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I am allowed to have an opinion as to how a company sells their products. </p><p></p><p>What I was actually saying was "is WotC putting out stuff that's going to be <em>worth </em>$30 a month?" $30 is most of a 5e hardcover book. Even considering that some of that $30 is for just paying for access to the tools and equipment, and some of a hardcover book's cost is printing, I'd still expect to get half a book's worth of material every month. But I have a sneaking suspicion that they won't give that much. And, well, look at what they put out for Spelljammer, where they didn't include the 2e lore <em>or </em>make up new lore to take its place, like they did with Ravenloft. They didn't even include space combat, there was barely any player material in it, their monster entries were short, boring, and also stripped of lore, and several of the monsters got turned into pure combat beasts.</p><p></p><p>All I can say is that I don't trust WotC to put out $30 worth of high-quality material each and every single month.</p><p></p><p>If <em>you </em>trust them, great. I truly and sincerely hope that I'm wrong and that they do, in fact, put out quality material every month, that they're <em>not </em>going to take away people's ability to play on other platforms, and that they're not going to make it difficult to play in person around a table. At this moment, though, I just can't trust them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is true.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm pretty sure that they don't have 87 tiers. I would be <em>shocked </em>if they even had four tiers. I can see them having a middle tier between free and $30, but I really doubt they'll do more than that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You don't have an anxiety disorder, do you?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8902105, member: 6915329"] There's a bit of a difference between gaming books and everything else you've mentioned. Each book, movie, TV show, game, piece of music--they're all individual, separate things. Even if they're part of a series, they're mostly still separate entities. But all your gaming books add together, meaning you're not getting a new and completely different piece of media, you're getting additional archetypes or additional spells or additional monsters for the [I]same [/I]game, and you'll end up having the fighter class and thirty archetypes for it (there are currently 10 of 'em), a thousand different bard spells (currently over 500), and fifty different types of goblins (currently over 20). Sure, maybe you would really enjoy having thirty different fighters archetypes, or even a hundred different fighter archetypes, and that's cool. And maybe you can even [I]use [/I]all of those archetypes in your game. Personally, though, there comes a time when I say "I think I have everything I need for this system and anything else would just be too much." Well, maybe not for [I]you. [/I]But considering that that alternative is, and always has been, [I]free[/I], it's a huge hike in price. [I][/I] I am allowed to have an opinion as to how a company sells their products. What I was actually saying was "is WotC putting out stuff that's going to be [I]worth [/I]$30 a month?" $30 is most of a 5e hardcover book. Even considering that some of that $30 is for just paying for access to the tools and equipment, and some of a hardcover book's cost is printing, I'd still expect to get half a book's worth of material every month. But I have a sneaking suspicion that they won't give that much. And, well, look at what they put out for Spelljammer, where they didn't include the 2e lore [I]or [/I]make up new lore to take its place, like they did with Ravenloft. They didn't even include space combat, there was barely any player material in it, their monster entries were short, boring, and also stripped of lore, and several of the monsters got turned into pure combat beasts. All I can say is that I don't trust WotC to put out $30 worth of high-quality material each and every single month. If [I]you [/I]trust them, great. I truly and sincerely hope that I'm wrong and that they do, in fact, put out quality material every month, that they're [I]not [/I]going to take away people's ability to play on other platforms, and that they're not going to make it difficult to play in person around a table. At this moment, though, I just can't trust them. That is true. I'm pretty sure that they don't have 87 tiers. I would be [I]shocked [/I]if they even had four tiers. I can see them having a middle tier between free and $30, but I really doubt they'll do more than that. You don't have an anxiety disorder, do you? [/QUOTE]
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