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Message: <blockquote data-quote="13garth13" data-source="post: 5626103" data-attributes="member: 16979">Well then, how about this....throughout humankind's history, we have stalked/hunted and killed numerous creatures larger than us (bison for example), but at no point in human history has is been considered common practice (for obvious reasons.....) to try to shove over an elephant, regardless as to whether you might try to hack/spear/bludgeon it to death.Look, some players/DMs have a sense of what is "realistic" in even a fantasy world that is quite different from what other players/DMs would find acceptable and not immersion-breaking in their games.  It's up to every player and GM to draw their own lines.  Me, I can grock the idea of a giant-slayer nimbly dodging the huge, crushing blows of a cloud giant and slowly hacking away at the legs and feet until the brute comes crashing down....but bulls-rushing the same immense humanoid throws my suspension of disbelieve to the ground and does un-grandma-friendly things to it (i.e. there would be one helluva penalty for such an attempt, so punatively high so as to render the odds of such an attempt succeeding truly heroic)As I said, everyone has their own boundaries for what seems "realistic" in a D&D game, but c'mon....is a 200 lb being knocking over something that weighs 5000 lbs (I haven't looked that up, that's just me spitballing) really in the same ballpark for you as slowly hacking it to death in terms of believability?  If so, then this may have to be an agree-to-disagree thang <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />.Cheers,ColinP.S.  Yes, I know that Hercules and other such mythological figures wrestled titanic beasts to the ground....I don't want the characters that I play, and DM for (well, their players anyway) to be tantamount to demigods from mythology; they're adventurers, not superheros.</blockquote>

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