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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James McMurray" data-source="post: 1293616" data-attributes="member: 743">Who cares how much they weigh? Payment won't necessarily be in just gold coins, it could also be in artwork, gems, and other magic items. If it is paid in coin, platinum would weigh 1/10th as much, and you can fit a lot of coins into a portable hole. If you're buying 1,000,000gp items, you should be able to afford a portable hole or two. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Have you ever thought about it? I'd guess you haven't, or you wouldn't have to ask that question.The money would go to various magical supplies retailers to purchase such sundries as elephant gizzards, cat's breath, and the artifact destroying feet of humble ants. Nobody ever said you could just mark it off your sheet and jump in a hole to create an item. You're right, that interpretation is rediculous, but its also only the simplest of all possible interpretations.I don't have to agree in the slightest, and your assertion that I do is just a bit arrogant, don't you think? I think the economic system works just fine. It does what its supposed to do: provides a balanced system for item creation for use within an adventure game.In the city of Union there are probably quite a few. A city where the gaurds are 14+ level, the higher ups in various churches and guildhalls will be much higher.And there is no such thing as the Ritual Creation feat (at least not in the core books, its a built in function of item creation). Given how useful the item creation feats are, I'd say that almost everysingle epic level cleric has Craft Wondrous Item, and many would also have Craft Epic Wondrous Item.If the ruleset is such that you need Ritual Creation to combine efforts, but combining efforts lets you get ungodly items for dirt cheap (i.e. the above item for <150k) then every single epic spellcaster with an epic spellcasting friend should have Ritual Creation. It just wouldn't make sense (from a personal power perspective) not to get it.</blockquote>

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