Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Million Dollar TTRPG Crowdfunders
Most Anticipated Tabletop RPGs Of The Year
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
new magic item idea - so obvious it must have been done before
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 3492085" data-attributes="member: 9789"><p>Well there you go then! Except that item is a) slotted to compete with head items (important to those using it) and b) actually does two things - comprehend languages and read magic. My item should have the following after it:</p><p>Faint divination; CL 3th; Craft Wondrous Item, <em>comprehend languages</em>.</p><p></p><p>So not only does their item do twice as much, it also grants a +5 to decipher script. By-the-book pricing, this item should cost 3000 (languages - 1 x 1 x 2000 x 1.5 for 10 min/level) + 1500 (read magic - 1/2 x 1 x 2000 x 1.5 for 10 min/level) + 2500 (skill boost - 500 x 5) = 7000, but it's only 5200. Not only that, but it works in an unspecified way, which is far more powerful than the level 1 spell allows. I can see some price reduction using the new MIC rules in order to make it more competitive with headbands of Int, but this is an earlier item...</p><p></p><p>Either way, I think my item could be more useful since it uses a rarely-used slot; this is part of the reason it was a bit higher than 2k, along with the fact that it works out to 30' for hearing things (instead of "touch" as the spell works). However, you could probably just make a helm into a "face" slot without trouble since it's clearly within that slot's affinity; with this item out there, no one would buy my current item at its current price, so it should either:</p><p>- be reduced to around 2042g</p><p>- include reading magic as well and be priced at 4200g or lower</p><p>The former makes it useful to anyone and doesn't take a valuable slot, and the latter makes it more useful to wizards, even without the bonus, because their head is free. Although for a mere 1k more they could have a helm that gave a bonus to a very rarely used skill as well... Yeah, that seems pretty fair. On the other hand, I guess the spirit of this item is really more "useful to anyone" at a low cost, so I think I'm favoring the former.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Rewrite:</p><p></p><p>Babelfish Glasses - 2042g</p><p>These bowl-shaped glasses fit comfortably over a generally humanoid-shaped creature's nose (otherwise, they fit uncomfortably) and have arms that reach back beside the head and around the ears. At the end of each arm is a tiny fish-shaped bulb. The wearer of these glasses can understand any spoken words or read any non-magical writing of any language. (It does not allow the wearer to speak or write any languages, nor does it decipher codes, reveal hidden messages, or translate non-languages, such as gibberish.) This item functions constantly while worn.</p><p>Cost: 1021 gold, 82 XP. Faint divination; CL 3th; Craft Wondrous Item, <em>comprehend languages</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 3492085, member: 9789"] Well there you go then! Except that item is a) slotted to compete with head items (important to those using it) and b) actually does two things - comprehend languages and read magic. My item should have the following after it: Faint divination; CL 3th; Craft Wondrous Item, [I]comprehend languages[/I]. So not only does their item do twice as much, it also grants a +5 to decipher script. By-the-book pricing, this item should cost 3000 (languages - 1 x 1 x 2000 x 1.5 for 10 min/level) + 1500 (read magic - 1/2 x 1 x 2000 x 1.5 for 10 min/level) + 2500 (skill boost - 500 x 5) = 7000, but it's only 5200. Not only that, but it works in an unspecified way, which is far more powerful than the level 1 spell allows. I can see some price reduction using the new MIC rules in order to make it more competitive with headbands of Int, but this is an earlier item... Either way, I think my item could be more useful since it uses a rarely-used slot; this is part of the reason it was a bit higher than 2k, along with the fact that it works out to 30' for hearing things (instead of "touch" as the spell works). However, you could probably just make a helm into a "face" slot without trouble since it's clearly within that slot's affinity; with this item out there, no one would buy my current item at its current price, so it should either: - be reduced to around 2042g - include reading magic as well and be priced at 4200g or lower The former makes it useful to anyone and doesn't take a valuable slot, and the latter makes it more useful to wizards, even without the bonus, because their head is free. Although for a mere 1k more they could have a helm that gave a bonus to a very rarely used skill as well... Yeah, that seems pretty fair. On the other hand, I guess the spirit of this item is really more "useful to anyone" at a low cost, so I think I'm favoring the former. Rewrite: Babelfish Glasses - 2042g These bowl-shaped glasses fit comfortably over a generally humanoid-shaped creature's nose (otherwise, they fit uncomfortably) and have arms that reach back beside the head and around the ears. At the end of each arm is a tiny fish-shaped bulb. The wearer of these glasses can understand any spoken words or read any non-magical writing of any language. (It does not allow the wearer to speak or write any languages, nor does it decipher codes, reveal hidden messages, or translate non-languages, such as gibberish.) This item functions constantly while worn. Cost: 1021 gold, 82 XP. Faint divination; CL 3th; Craft Wondrous Item, [I]comprehend languages[/I] [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
new magic item idea - so obvious it must have been done before
Top