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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7269702" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>This is the part I was going back and forth about, let me talk out my thinking and see if anything works out well. But let me mentions that you can only apply a single metamagic to a spell, so you never have to worry about this combining with empower.</p><p></p><p>My first thought is that you can't go over your level. But then it occurs to me that will make the use of this metamagic into a rare corner case. If you want a 2nd level spell at 3rd level and you have 3rd level slots, you can just cast using that slot. If you don't but have time, you can make the slot with the slot you were about to use and roughly the SP you were about to use. It really became just "I'm out of those slots and don't have time to make one" which is rare enough that it's not worth the opportunity cost of missing out on a different Metamagic option.</p><p></p><p>So I thought about going above the top level. Thinking about multiclassed casters, they aren't just as good a caster as a single class of either of them because their spells known are lower, but they are given the slots of a single classed caster. So it's there are no spells known for the higher level and you can only use them to upcast that really is the balance point.</p><p></p><p>But just in case, I also put in the limitation about only one bump. I wouldn't want a mid-level caster blowing a bunch of SP and bringing a spell up by 4 or 5 levels - that is too much nova ability. So single bump only. And that gave me the ability to make sure it's at least a meaningful bump, for the few spells you can upcast but don't give an advance at every level, to keep the metamagic relevant.</p><p></p><p>I think these comments also address what [MENTION=40552]Quartz[/MENTION] and [MENTION=60210]jaelis[/MENTION] were replying as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7269702, member: 20564"] This is the part I was going back and forth about, let me talk out my thinking and see if anything works out well. But let me mentions that you can only apply a single metamagic to a spell, so you never have to worry about this combining with empower. My first thought is that you can't go over your level. But then it occurs to me that will make the use of this metamagic into a rare corner case. If you want a 2nd level spell at 3rd level and you have 3rd level slots, you can just cast using that slot. If you don't but have time, you can make the slot with the slot you were about to use and roughly the SP you were about to use. It really became just "I'm out of those slots and don't have time to make one" which is rare enough that it's not worth the opportunity cost of missing out on a different Metamagic option. So I thought about going above the top level. Thinking about multiclassed casters, they aren't just as good a caster as a single class of either of them because their spells known are lower, but they are given the slots of a single classed caster. So it's there are no spells known for the higher level and you can only use them to upcast that really is the balance point. But just in case, I also put in the limitation about only one bump. I wouldn't want a mid-level caster blowing a bunch of SP and bringing a spell up by 4 or 5 levels - that is too much nova ability. So single bump only. And that gave me the ability to make sure it's at least a meaningful bump, for the few spells you can upcast but don't give an advance at every level, to keep the metamagic relevant. I think these comments also address what [MENTION=40552]Quartz[/MENTION] and [MENTION=60210]jaelis[/MENTION] were replying as well. [/QUOTE]
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