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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 4000090" data-attributes="member: 58197">The danger does exist, and I admit to having some concern as well.&nbsp; On the other hand, when you get right down to it, would it be such a bad thing?Say there's some kind of &quot;barbarian rage&quot;-type ability that triggers when you hit that threshold.&nbsp; Pain and injury send you into a crazed fury and you carve through your foes.&nbsp; And say a clever player finds ways to twink that ability so it's actually worth damaging yourself to trigger it.What you end up with is a berserker who gashes open his own flesh before battle to work himself into a killing frenzy.&nbsp; After the fight, when the healer comes to tend his wounds, this ferocious brute accepts only the minimum patching up necessary to keep him from bleeding to death.&nbsp; He wants the pain so he can keep his fighting edge.The concept actually makes sense when you think about it.&nbsp; If the combo is powerful enough that everybody does this, that's a problem, but if it's just one guy in a party of four or five, I think it's fine.&nbsp; In fact, I could imagine a &quot;Frenzied Berserker&quot; paragon path that actively embraces the idea.&nbsp; Maybe you have the special ability to spend a minor action and stab yourself; your hit points immediately drop to the top end of the Bloodied range, triggering all relevant abilities.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 4000090, member: 58197"] The danger does exist, and I admit to having some concern as well. On the other hand, when you get right down to it, would it be such a bad thing? Say there's some kind of "barbarian rage"-type ability that triggers when you hit that threshold. Pain and injury send you into a crazed fury and you carve through your foes. And say a clever player finds ways to twink that ability so it's actually worth damaging yourself to trigger it. What you end up with is a berserker who gashes open his own flesh before battle to work himself into a killing frenzy. After the fight, when the healer comes to tend his wounds, this ferocious brute accepts only the minimum patching up necessary to keep him from bleeding to death. He wants the pain so he can keep his fighting edge. The concept actually makes sense when you think about it. If the combo is powerful enough that [i]everybody[/i] does this, that's a problem, but if it's just one guy in a party of four or five, I think it's fine. In fact, I could imagine a "Frenzied Berserker" paragon path that actively embraces the idea. Maybe you have the special ability to spend a minor action and stab yourself; your hit points immediately drop to the top end of the Bloodied range, triggering all relevant abilities. [/QUOTE]

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