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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jaer" data-source="post: 4000096" data-attributes="member: 57861">Agreed.  I took it that they were removing things like paralysis ("I'm held fast for 10 rounds? I'm gonna go play Guitar Hero...call me when the fight is over.") which just weren't fun.  I have never, however, taken a player's character and played them as an NPC when that character was dominated.  It's more fun to watch them kill each other: had a confusion nearly TPK the group last month...the monster was already gone and they spent several rounds slaughtering each other!  Fortunately, the right one lived to save everyone.As for Suggestion being powerful in combat, it is a matter of creativity.  I like to think of it as similar to wait a hypnotist can do or suggest but with a little more potency.  Remember that it is a magic compulsion to do that which is suggested: fail the will save, do what is stated; that can be very powerful.I have had plans on running an enchanter who never Suggested the same thing twice, so I've been building up some ideas.  "You are contempuous of our abilities to fight you.  You will not demean yourself by using weapons against us."  That opponent fights unarmed; unless they happen to be trained in unarmed combat, that was an AoO every time they attacked and much, much reduced damage."Your armor is heavy and uncomfortable; you cannot fight effectively in it.  Take it off."  I believe the rules for taking off full plate have it require several minutes and you provoke AoO every round from anyone in range.Not all DMs would allow such things, but if your DM rewards creativity (and I certainly do when I DM), then Suggestion is one of the ultimate spells, limited only by the players ability to word something so it sounds reasonable. "I can't fight in this armor, therefore I need to take it off" is a reasonable logic leap IMO, even if it is not a typical logic leap or one a character would have (being that they often wear that armor and fight - why is it uncofortable now?).  But that's what makes it magic.</blockquote>

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