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Message: <blockquote data-quote="monboesen" data-source="post: 5358584" data-attributes="member: 4647">I'm a fellow anal retentive DM who had trouble challenging my players.But unlike you I don't find a chore to implement the errata changes. I'll do the same monsters you did, time it and explain what I did and why.Bounty Hunter Snaremaster    Level 7 ArtillerySmall natural humanoid     XP 300HP 61; Bloodied 31AC 19; Fortitude 18; Reflex 20; Will 19Speed 6Initiative +7Perception +11Standard Actionsm Rapier (weapon) • At-WillAttack: +12 vs. ACHit: 2d8 + 3 damage.r Bolas (weapon) • At-WillAttack: Ranged 10/20; +12 vs. ReflexHit: 3d4 + 5 damage, and the target is restrained (save ends).R Keep'Em Separated (weapon) • Recharge 5 6Attack: Ranged 10/20 (three targets in range); +12 vs. ReflexHit: 4d4 + 4 damage, and the target slides 2 squares and is restrained (save ends).Triggered ActionsSecond Chance • EncounterEffect (Immediate Interrupt): The bounty hunter snaremaster forces the attacker to reroll the attack and take the new result.Str 10 (+3)    Dex 19 (+7)    Wis 16 (+6)Con 13 (+4)    Int 13 (+4)    Cha 10 (+3)Alignment unaligned<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Languages Common, DwarvenEquipment leather armor, rapier, bola x6Time: 3 minutes.1. I checked the defenses. They are spot on the guideline for artillery.2. I changed his to his bonuses to the guideline +5 vs. AC and +3 vs. other defenses.3. I checked the attack bonus and damage on the three attack options. The expected damage should be around 15 (lvl+8) for at-will attacks and 25-50 % higher on encounter attacks. For the attacks I adjusted all to hit settings to normal and all damage settings to medium and 15 damage. Then i bumped the Rapier melee damage down by 25% to reward players who choose to melee an artillery piece. I also bumped the at-will bola damage down by 25 due to the annoying restrained condition. The attack bonus I increased by 2 as recommended for artillery ranged attacks.For the encounter bola attack I bumped the damage up by 25%. The attack bonus I increased by 2 as recommended for artillery ranged attacks.DoneBounty Hunter Subduer    Level 7 SkirmisherMedium natural humanoid     XP 300HP 76; Bloodied 38AC 21; Fortitude 20; Reflex 19; Will 18Speed 6Initiative +8Perception +5TraitsCombat AdvantageThe bounty hunter subduer deals an extra 2d6 damage on melee attacks against any target it has combat advantage against.Standard Actionsm Maul (weapon) • At-WillAttack: +12 vs. ACHit: 3d6 + 5 damage.M Knockout Blow (weapon) • Recharge 5 6Attack: +10 vs. FortitudeHit: 4d6 + 4 damage, and the target is knocked prone and dazed (save ends).Skills Nature +10Str 18 (+7)    Dex 16 (+6)    Wis 14 (+5)Con 12 (+4)    Int 10 (+3)    Cha 10 (+3)Alignment unaligned<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Languages CommonEquipment leather armor, maulTime: 2 minutes.1. I checked the defenses. They are spot on the guideline for skirmishers.2. I checked his to his bonuses to hit, they are correct.3. I checked the attack bonus and damage on the two attack options. The expected damage should be around 15 (lvl+8) for at-will attacks and 25-50 % higher on encounter attacks. For the attacks I adjusted all to hit settings to normal and all damage settings to medium and 15 damage. For the encounter attack I bumped the damage up by 25%. Foregoing the 50% because of the possible recharge and nasty condition.DoneBounty Hunter Strongarm    Level 7 BruteMedium natural humanoid     XP 300HP 98; Bloodied 49AC 19; Fortitude 20; Reflex 17; Will 19Speed 5Initiative +4Perception +11Low-Light VisionTraitsBrute RushWhen a bounty hunter strongarm makes a bull rush attack, he pushes the target 2 squares instead of 1 square.Stand Your GroundWhen an effect forces the bounty hunter strongarm to move—through a push, a pull, or a slide—the bounty hunter strongarm moves 1 square less than the effect specifies. When an attack would knock the bounty hunter strongarm prone, the bounty hunter strongarm can roll a saving throw to avoid falling prone.Standard Actionsm Greataxe (weapon) • At-WillAttack: +12 vs. ACHit: 1d12 + 11 damage.C Clear The Area (weapon) • Recharge 6Attack: Close burst 1; +12 vs. ACHit: 1d12 + 15 damage, and the target is pushed 1 square.Str 13 (+4)    Dex 12 (+4)    Wis 16 (+6)Con 18 (+7)    Int 11 (+3)    Cha 8 (+2)Alignment unaligned<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Languages Common, DwarvenEquipment leather armor, greataxeTime: 1 minute.1. I checked the defenses. They are spot on the guideline for brutes.2. I changed his to his bonuses to the guideline +5 vs. AC and +3 vs. other defenses.3. I checked the attack bonus and damage on the two attack options. The expected damage should be around 19 ((lvl+8)*1,25 because its a Brute) for at-will attacks and 25-50 % higher on encounter attacks. For the attacks I adjusted all to hit settings to normal and all damage settings to medium and 19 damage. For the encounter attack I bumped the damage up by 50%. Why, because Brutes need to hit hard and he is unlikely to rechare the attack.DoneSo about 6 minutes work to make the three dudes more of a challenge. In fact this post took far longer than the actual work.So what I don't really get is why it's taking you so long. I have printed the two relevant tables (Damage per level and Monster statistics by role) and use the Monster Builder. With those two I find it both fast and easy to adjust the monsters.And boy have my players been able to feel the difference. To be fair I warned them that I was now going by the new expected accuracy and damage values. Since then level appropriate monsters have been much more challenging. And the players have a new found respect for brutes<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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