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<blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 8889845" data-attributes="member: 6879661">$50k in a year is not an insubstantial amount. Boutique / Cottage self publishers are probably under that threshold.$750k of licensed product is pretty darn substantial. I get that the first book you make costs you a fortune but every book after that has a pretty darn good margin right? So when we’re only taking about sales over $750,000 that covers a hell of a lot of cost.What is the suggested alternative to being able to terminate the licence at any time? Not being able to terminate the license? Outside of this case who would willingly enter into an agreement that would tie your hands regardless of the changing circumstances? As one of the legal posts mentioned elsewhere - from a business point of view that’s pretty irresponsible. It’s pretty rare to be in a contract you can’t get out of… ever!Now a fixed term - with a guarantee protecting work produced in that period seems reasonable. It’s how most business leases work for instance.I’ve seen the FAQ information that makes it clear that the clause about using your material is to stop creators suing frivolously, not to enable WOC to steal the stuff though I get that people are naturally suspicious. These clauses have been in place for a while though… are there any actual cases where WOC has stolen someone’s work for their own under a licence? From DMsGuild etc or is this just scaremongering.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheSword, post: 8889845, member: 6879661"] $50k in a year is not an insubstantial amount. Boutique / Cottage self publishers are probably under that threshold. $750k of licensed product is pretty darn substantial. I get that the first book you make costs you a fortune but every book after that has a pretty darn good margin right? So when we’re only taking about sales over $750,000 that covers a hell of a lot of cost. What is the suggested alternative to being able to terminate the licence at any time? Not being able to terminate the license? Outside of this case who would willingly enter into an agreement that would tie your hands regardless of the changing circumstances? As one of the legal posts mentioned elsewhere - from a business point of view that’s pretty irresponsible. It’s pretty rare to be in a contract you can’t get out of… ever! Now a fixed term - with a guarantee protecting work produced in that period seems reasonable. It’s how most business leases work for instance. I’ve seen the FAQ information that makes it clear that the clause about using your material is to stop creators suing frivolously, not to enable WOC to steal the stuff though I get that people are naturally suspicious. These clauses have been in place for a while though… are there any actual cases where WOC has stolen someone’s work for their own under a licence? From DMsGuild etc or is this just scaremongering. [/QUOTE]

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