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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Linke" data-source="post: 9009990" data-attributes="member: 6873682">I don't buy into that &quot;if we call it D&amp;D, then it is&quot; sentiment.&nbsp; There are fundamental rules that make a game what it is, and if you're disgregarding them, you're playing something else.&nbsp; If I tell you we're playing D&amp;D at my place, and you show up, and we're just doing improv, isn't that kind of confusing?&nbsp; Even if you like improv, wouldn't it have made more sense to say &quot;We're doing improv at my place.&quot;One time (we were really young), I played chess with a friend, and he said something vague like &quot;you gotta take out all the pieces&quot; before we started.&nbsp; I thought he meant &quot;make sure none of the pieces are missing before we start&quot;.&nbsp; I check-mated his king and declared victory, and he was really mad &quot;NO!&nbsp; I said you have to kill ALL of my pieces.&nbsp; You agreed.&nbsp; That's how we're playing.&quot;&nbsp; That game wasn't chess.&nbsp; It was some nonsense he made up.&nbsp; After I understood what he meant, it sounded interesting, but it wasn't my fault for thinking he meant &quot;chess&quot; when he agreed to play chess.Edit: yeah, i understand that D&amp;D can eponymously refer to TTRPGs in general, but I would only use it that way in a context where what we're playing doesn't actually matter.&nbsp; Like, if I don't want to explain to my mom that there's other RPGs out there, it's easier to say &quot;I couldn't answer my phone, cause we were playing D&amp;D.&quot;, but I'm unlikely to use the term D&amp;D to talk about &quot;roleplay&quot; in any case where I think that would confuse expectations of players.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Michael Linke, post: 9009990, member: 6873682"] I don't buy into that "if we call it D&D, then it is" sentiment. There are fundamental rules that make a game what it is, and if you're disgregarding them, you're playing something else. If I tell you we're playing D&D at my place, and you show up, and we're just doing improv, isn't that kind of confusing? Even if you like improv, wouldn't it have made more sense to say "We're doing improv at my place." One time (we were really young), I played chess with a friend, and he said something vague like "you gotta take out all the pieces" before we started. I thought he meant "make sure none of the pieces are missing before we start". I check-mated his king and declared victory, and he was really mad "NO! I said you have to kill ALL of my pieces. You agreed. That's how we're playing." That game wasn't chess. It was some nonsense he made up. After I understood what he meant, it sounded interesting, but it wasn't my fault for thinking he meant "chess" when he agreed to play chess. Edit: yeah, i understand that D&D can eponymously refer to TTRPGs in general, but I would only use it that way in a context where what we're playing doesn't actually matter. Like, if I don't want to explain to my mom that there's other RPGs out there, it's easier to say "I couldn't answer my phone, cause we were playing D&D.", but I'm unlikely to use the term D&D to talk about "roleplay" in any case where I think that would confuse expectations of players. [/QUOTE]

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