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Message: <blockquote data-quote="emanresu" data-source="post: 6292091" data-attributes="member: 6686506">I wanted this to be a pc of all firsts, at least picking roads less travelled. Our gaming group voted on gestalt pc's, so just remember its a gestalt & evil group.I initially intended on making the skill monkey of the party and I also wanted to make an evil "mentalist". I came up with rogue/Beguiler, felt that filled the order quite nicely. I have not played a rogue nor a Beguiler so both are firsts. Pc will be female, again a unique experience... Everythings is working right along nicely THEN>>>>I read rumbletigers spells for skill thread. Needless to say, I got disheartened. Skillmonkey was just murdered in this thread, and dead monkeys are not much fun. So the skillmonkey portion of this build will be a distant 2nd. Back to the drawing board! I now want to specialize, concentrate my energies in the mentalist portion, more directly the evil domineering/charming/mind "F"ing / make others shat themselves portion of the build. In my search I noticed a few classes & prestige classes that "fit" perfectly. Beguiler, Dread Witch, Nightmare Spinner, Mindbender & Bard. (Its mostly City based campaign so none of those Necromancer types) Starting at 5th level, gestalt and evil your suggestions for her?1 Swashbucker or fighter? / Beguiler2 rogue / Beguiler3 rogue / Beguiler4 rogue / Beguiler5 rogue / Mindbender6 Dread Witch / Beguiler7 Dread Witch / Fighter or Swash8 Dread Witch / rogue9 Dread Witch / fighter r swash10 Dread Witch / rogue11 Nightmare Spinner / Beguiler12 Nightmare Spinner / fighter13 Nightmare Spinner / rogue14 Nightmare Spinner / fighter15 Nightmare Spinner / rogueor nightmare spinner before dread witch, yah I think that might fit better or just mix 1 after the other?-the campaign setting is also a first. We will start as mere employees, and will eventually be charisma followers of a very rich and powerful Noble family. The lords of the family, of which they have many, are positioning themselves / vying for the soon to be empty throne. This Noble Family publicly will consist of multiple businesses, many guilds, all together its a huge family conglomerate ref to as House Highborn. No not a very humble name, but its highest lord(s) want to be king/queen. -Our party role has not been established 100% the assumption being we will do the "less than noble acts" that furthers our houses possession. We will enforce/intimidate/coerce/give offers others cant refuse/ act as strike team / investigate/assassinate/info gathering/protect against other assassin types/advise etc etc all the while keeping the Nobles of our House hands clean, seemingly/publicly clean.I felt a little campaign insight may influence your decisions, I think I typed to much sorry bout that.so Im looking for help/suggestions/advice...general thoughts?all pc's will have one 18 and a 20 pt buy. I have rolled up the following magicals, some random.brooch or circlet of persuasion+1 rapier2 potions both minorand 1 arcane scroll with a 3rd level spell I cant casteman</blockquote>

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