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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5419482" data-attributes="member: 87792">Another fey race.  And the favourite of repressed fourteen year old boys.  Yay.  Here I agree.  We already have Goliaths.  Why do we want half-ogres?  And no large PCs in 4e please.  At least not without it being the level 16 feature of a racial paragon path.  (4e doesn't really do the feat-tree thing and you'd need a lot of feats to balance being large).  Well that's two deal-breakers.  Utterly non-viable before Paragon and very very dodgy afterwards.  Why not?  Foulborn Bloodline IMO does this much better as would other bloodlines.  You start with a regular race before mutating it.  And the mutations are progressive. The race I want to see is the Kobold with a slightly nerfed Shifty.  Orcs, gobs, and hobgobs would also be nice as they are such perennials.  But other than the Large Paragon Path (again, we have obvious races here - no need for the half-ogres), most of the rest seem to either be Bladeling Mark Threes or redundant.</blockquote>